Holiness And Legalism. - Page 4

berkeley · #31 12-30-2008, 08:39 PM

Before the thread continues, can we set the record straight? Legalism is when one returns to the O.T. law. What you are referring to as "legalism" is really New Pharisaism. LoL

Sister Alvear · #32 12-30-2008, 10:35 PM

Preparing to live a holy life begins IN THE MIND! That is why we must be careful to get things impressed in our minds and hearts...The call to holiness is based on the character of God being a Holy God...We are His children, we represent His Kingdom.We can't embrace the God of the Bible and fail to embrace a holy lifestyle. We must be holy for He is holy.
We cannot be holy by our own merit or power...He must be in us and shine through us. He must control our actions and thoughts.

Sister Alvear · #33 12-30-2008, 10:41 PM

The picture for those that do not know me...

"The Sifra, a rabbinic midrash, conveys the concept of "otherness" in its comment to Leviticus 19:2: "‘You shall be holy'--You shall be distinct (perushim tiheyu),"meaningthat the people of Israel, in becoming a holy nation, must preserve its distinctiveness from other peoples. It must pursue a way of life different from that practiced by other peoples. "

Since we are part of a higher kingdom our values and lifestyles differ from those that do not know Jesus.

Scott Hutchinson · #34 12-30-2008, 10:42 PM

We must have holiness what concerns me is that with alot of people claiming to be Christians their lifestyle is no different from sinners.
Then on the other side there are those who claim to be Christians who have so many rules and call Holiness so many things that have nothing to do with Holiness, like people calling everyone backslid who wears a short-sleeve shirt or calling women harlots who wear open toe shoes.
I respect personal convictions,but yet at the same time people make doctrines out of things that one can't make the bible say.

Sister Alvear · #35 12-30-2008, 10:45 PM

I do not enjoy preachers calling people bad names...
Brother Scott you are such a gentleman. Blessings to you.

Scott Hutchinson · #36 12-30-2008, 10:45 PM

I'm concerned about a lack of holiness in today's church,but at the same time I'm concerned about people who play Jesus and try to clean people up rather than letting The Holy Ghost do it's work.

Sister Alvear · #37 12-30-2008, 10:46 PM

so true...

Scott Hutchinson · #38 12-30-2008, 10:47 PM

Sister A. I appreciate you and your convictions we do need to preach holiness and I'm concerned about being Holiness in my lifestyle but I don't want to be a wacko either.

Scott Hutchinson · #39 12-30-2008, 10:52 PM

Sometimes we pray Lord send us lost souls and then when God sends them we get mad if they come to church wearing garments that are not to our liking we want people to be cleaned up before they get the Holy Ghost.
Why can't we love people and let God work in someone's life.
Before someone repents we play church police and hand them a do and don't list.

live4him · #40 12-30-2008, 11:05 PM

what we need to do is quit being keepers of the aquarium, and go out of the box and witness and quit shoving standards down peoples throats but in the meantime let God deal with peoples convictions, they will learn in due time, thats why alot of people quit going to church because they are judged, we need to let God be the judge, let them get in first. but quit kicking them down before they enter the doors.thats whats happening people are kicking them down . lift them up. goodness gracious. there are people hungry out there,and they want more of God not more of judgement.

just my 2 cents