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03-24-2009, 08:12 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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I've never heard this taught in my entire life. Is it kind of a regional thing?
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Naw. Just by those who want bigger churches (building wise).
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03-24-2009, 09:02 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
i am wondering what an evangelist is doing teaching on giving in a church, that is the pastors job, dt
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03-24-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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i am wondering what an evangelist is doing teaching on giving in a church, that is the pastors job, dt
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You get in good if you preach on giving.
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03-24-2009, 11:33 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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i am wondering what an evangelist is doing teaching on giving in a church, that is the pastors job, dt
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You get in good if you preach on giving. 
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It does lift a burden from the pastor at times. However, it should be a scriptural lesson based on the Word, not some man-made contivance designed to make merchandise of the flock.
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03-24-2009, 11:35 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Yep... Luke Levine just preached this exact thing in a revival (of all things) in my area. It has caused quite the controversy. I'm glad people are questioning! Thank God for people who are starting to realize that it's NOT good stewardship of the intelligence God gave us to park our brains with our cars before we walk into the church building.
1 Thessalonians 5.21 - Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.
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Jaamez, are you certain about this? Not doubting your word, it's just I would be a bit disappointed and would like to know more. We're you there, for example? Did he cite the passage from Exodus 30?
Was there a "promise" offered for "healing" and "atonement" for those who gave the "Tithe + 5%"?
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03-24-2009, 11:38 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
This was taught over 20 years ago and just about did my husband in. He had just come out of the Baptist church and was amazed so many were buying into this, as Jesus bought our atonement.
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03-24-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Jaamez, are you certain about this? Not doubting your word, it's just I would be a bit disappointed and would like to know more. We're you there, for example? Did he cite the passage from Exodus 30?
Was there a "promise" offered for "healing" and "atonement" for those who gave the "Tithe + 5%"?
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I was not there personally as I'm no longer associated with that assembly. But I know HUNDREDS who were there, having talked to several myself. I have also personally seen the three-page notes handout that was passed out before the message. I'll get a copy myself and let you know more if you're interested. I DO know that he specifically referred to the half-shekel after the sanctuary shekel.
On this topic, there was another pastor in the area who took it even further - preaching as a command that the 10% tithe is exclusively for "the ministry", and an additional 5% is required for general offering, and additional 5% is required for building fund, and 3% is required for missionary offerings. A whopping 23% of your income was immediately confiscated by this joker's preaching. So much for the gospel being good news to the poor!
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03-24-2009, 12:31 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
I recently heard of an evangelist teaching that beyond the tithe, saints are required to give an offering of 5% of their increase. His scriptures for this come from Exodus 30:13-15. What say ye?
Exd 30:13 This they shall give, every one that passeth among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel [is] twenty gerahs  an half shekel [shall be] the offering of the LORD.
Exd 30:14 Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD.
Exd 30:15 The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when [they] give an offering unto the LORD, to make an atonement for your souls.
He stated that the shekel of the sanctuary represented the tithe, and so therefore half of the tithe (an half shekel) should be given as an offering.
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Cranky Jankee...that sermon would make me leave that church. I do believe that offerrings are above and separate from tithing but it has to come from abundance and a thankful heart. The Bible teaches good stewardship and this applies to churches also. They should not overbuild and tax the people until they are worn out and paupers.
JMHO.
Blessings, Rhoni
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03-24-2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
I recently heard of an evangelist teaching that beyond the tithe, saints are required to give an offering of 5% of their increase. His scriptures for this come from Exodus 30:13-15. What say ye?
Exd 30:13 This they shall give, every one that passeth among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel [is] twenty gerahs  an half shekel [shall be] the offering of the LORD.
Exd 30:14 Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD.
Exd 30:15 The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when [they] give an offering unto the LORD, to make an atonement for your souls.
He stated that the shekel of the sanctuary represented the tithe, and so therefore half of the tithe (an half shekel) should be given as an offering.
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I was taught that for years; however, I have grown to understand that "giving" cannot be mandated.
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03-24-2009, 01:09 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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I was taught that for years; however, I have grown to understand that "giving" cannot be mandated.
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 AMEN! Just like holiness cannot be legislated. Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Christ.
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