The Word Shekinah ? - Page 4

Praxeas · #31 03-26-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I love Sister Rhoni,but I don't find this word in the bible myself,I would love to eat some steak though,but I wonder how this term found it's way into Pentecost ?
Recently sunday I was out of town and I visiting a big church and I heard a well known Preacher in oneness pentecostal circles use this term.

Do you read hebrew? Do you see the word bible in the bible? What difference does it make if the word is not found in the bible? Is Oneness found in the bible? Is Pentecostal?

Rhoni · #32 03-26-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

It comes from the word shakan, which means "dwelling"

This the Jews called שכינה Shekinah, the habitation of Jehovah. "Clark"

Exo 24:16 The glory of the LORD dwelt on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days. And on the seventh day he called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

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The verb is וַיִּשְׁכֹּן (wayyiskon), "and dwelt, abode." From this is derived the epithet "the Shekinah Glory," the dwelling or abiding glory. The "glory of Yahweh" was a display visible at a distance, clearly in view of the Israelites. To them it was like a consuming fire in the midst of the cloud that covered the mountain. That fire indicated that Yahweh wished to accept their sacrifice, as if it were a pleasant aroma to him, as Leviticus would say. This "appearance" indicated that the phenomena represented a shimmer of the likeness of his glory (B. Jacob, 749). The verb, according to Cassuto (p. 316), also gives an inkling of the next section of the book, the building of the "tabernacle," the dwelling place, the מִשְׁכָּן (miskan). The vision of the glory of Yahweh confirmed the authority of the revelation of the Law given to Israel. This chapter is the climax of God's bringing people into covenant with himself, the completion of his revelation to them, a completion that is authenticated with the miraculous. It ends with the mediator going up in the clouds to be with God, and the people down below eagerly awaiting his return. The message of the whole chapter could be worded this way: Those whom God sanctifies by the blood of the covenant and instructs by the book of the covenant may enjoy fellowship with him and anticipate a far more glorious fellowship. So too in the NT the commandments and teachings of Jesus are confirmed by his miraculous deeds and by his glorious manifestation on the Mount of the Transfiguration, where a few who represented the disciples would see his glory and be able to teach others. The people of the new covenant have been brought into fellowship with God through the blood of the covenant; they wait eagerly for his return from heaven in the clouds.

Exo 29:45 I will dwell among the people of Israel and will be their God.

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73 tn The verb is the root שׁכן (sakan), from which came the word for "sanctuary" (מִשְׁכָּן [miskan]). It is also used for the description of "the Shekinah glory." God is affirming that he will reside in the midst of his people.

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

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36 tn Grk "and tabernacled."

sn The Greek word translated took up residence (σκηνόω, skēnoō) alludes to the OT tabernacle, where the Shekinah, the visible glory of God's presence, resided. The author is suggesting that this glory can now be seen in Jesus (note the following verse). The verb used here may imply that the Shekinah glory that once was found in the tabernacle has taken up residence in the person of Jesus. Cf. also Joh_2:19-21. The Word became flesh. This verse constitutes the most concise statement of the incarnation in the New Testament. Joh_1:1 makes it clear that the Logos was fully God, but Joh_1:14 makes it clear that he was also fully human. A Docetic interpretation is completely ruled out. Here for the first time the Logos of Joh_1:1 is identified as Jesus of Nazareth--the two are one and the same. Thus this is the last time the word logos is used in the Fourth Gospel to refer to the second person of the Trinity. From here on it is Jesus of Nazareth who is the focus of John's Gospel.

I debated this with my Western Civilization teacher at Florida State and I got an A for using the scriptural term in the Hebrew & Greek translations correctly!

Blessings, Rhoni

Scott Hutchinson · #33 03-26-2009, 02:17 PM

I don't read Hebrew but I would I want to use a term from The Kabbala a book of mysticism ?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta29.htm

Praxeas · #34 03-26-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I don't read Hebrew but I would I want to use a term from The Kabbala a book of mysticism ?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta29.htm

You know Scott...if you read the Kabbala you will also find the term "God" so don't use the word God anymore. Don't use any word found in the Kabbalah if that is the case. Don't even use the word Kabbalah because that might be in the Kabbalah. While we are at it, don't use the word Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc etc, because you know where those came from right?

Praxeas · #35 03-26-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Alright Prax you win.

Awwww that was too easy Scott. You gotta give me more fight than that

freeatlast · #36 03-26-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I love Sister Rhoni,but I don't find this word in the bible myself,I would love to eat some steak though,but I wonder how this term found it's way into Pentecost ?
Recently sunday I was out of town and I visiting a big church and I heard a well known Preacher in oneness pentecostal circles use this term.

Same most of our crazy standards came about Scott. Some preacher said it...nobody questioned it...and now it's law and gospel.

It's kind of a funny sounding word, it problably helps folks speak in tongues.

Just say Shekinah over and over till you fall out on the floor.

MomOfADramaQn · #37 03-26-2009, 02:43 PM

The word rapture isn't in the bible either but it sure is used a lot in pentecost

Scott Hutchinson · #38 03-26-2009, 02:46 PM

Ok seriously we do need to study out the origins of things if anything that is taught or preached that is unbiblical we do need to question the origin of it and why we use it in our doctrine.
Here check this out.

http://www.dhushara.com/book/torah/c...m#anchor193738

Scott Hutchinson · #39 03-26-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn

The word rapture isn't in the bible either but it sure is used a lot in pentecost

Perhaps we should look at we arrived at using that term.
Just because something is time honored doesn't make it biblical.

Scott Hutchinson · #40 03-26-2009, 02:52 PM

I'm not trying to be argumenative but why do we assume that just because something is taught or if a big name preacher says something that it is correct,why aren't we studying things out for ourselves ?

http://home.earthlink.net/~ecorebbe/id50.html