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Old 07-30-2009, 03:46 PM
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Re: Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate

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Maybe you missed this quote, Coadie.

The documents I have for me and my children are the official records as well. I don't need the long forms. I have yet to find anyone who has ever needed the long form for any reason.
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A computer-generated abbreviated version that has been promoted on the Internet is the official record, he said.
They found an original forgery?

You are shifty. No one said you needed a different form
Thanks for sharing a red herring.

If I wanted red herrings, twisp cranks them out in larger quantities.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:50 PM
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Teaching moment: Bring proof and not the same, tired arguments that don't work.

You're going to have to come up with some new talking points for his second term.

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Not seeing any from you birthers.
Obama sent drones to pakkystans as he pronounces it and to AFF>

Answer the question.

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Twisp tell us the time and place including confirmed dates when obama born to a British citizen in good standing renunced his citizenship.
We wait patiently for this

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Try to be accurate and truthful
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Explain why Obama's claim on fact checks is wrong when obama's claim says citizenship went away by reason of turning the age of 21.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:57 PM
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They found an original forgery?

You are shifty. No one said you needed a different form
Thanks for sharing a red herring.

If I wanted red herrings, twisp cranks them out in larger quantities.
I don't see why you don't take all of you supposed "proof" and contact the Federal Election Commission. They deemed him qualified to run for the Presidency. Why don't you call them, wow them with your opinions, and change their mind?

There is a reason that there aren't many birthers in the mainstream media, liberal or conserative. Once the light is shone on the birthers, they wilt under the pressure. All their "facts" are shown to be opinions and falsehoods.

I think it is a great case study to see how hatred/disapproval blinds otherwise logical individuals. I would say that it is a mob mentality, but there aren't that many birthers out there.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Obama sent drones to pakkystans as he pronounces it and to AFF>

Answer the question.

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We wait patiently for this
He was born to an American citizen on US soil, thus making him a natural US citizen.

You are better than this, coadie. Stop acting silly.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:05 PM
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Twisp tell us the time and place including confirmed dates when obama born to a British citizen in good standing renunced his citizenship.

We wait patiently for this


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Explain why Obama's claim on fact checks is wrong when obama's claim says citizenship went away by reason of turning the age of 21.
You claim he had dual citizen ship.
He posted on his site His daddio was british and the Obama sr. children were under that authority.

Why are you ducking this question?


twisp

You are deceptive in that you leave out some truth.
His father was a British citizen and I quoted British law that determines what is what.
Go ahead ans tell us how and when his renunciation of British citizenshp took place. If you want to stay stubborn about it, that tells us it never happened and he is still under British law.
It is possible some would call that dual citizenship. His oath of office was therefore deceptive.

Isn't is something how con men con people?)


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Old 07-30-2009, 04:09 PM
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You claim he had dual citizen ship.
He posted on his site His daddio was british and the Obama sr. children were under that authority.

Why are you ducking this question?


twisp

You are deceptive in that you leave out some truth.
His father was a British citizen and I quoted British law that determines what is what.
Go ahead ans tell us how and when his renunciation of British citizenshp took place. If you want to stay stubborn about it, that tells us it never happened and he is still under British law.
It is possible some would call that dual citizenship. His oath of office was therefore deceptive.

Isn't is something how con men con people?)
Per YOUR link yesterday, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on his 21st birthday. Are you not reading the links you post? Did you skip over that part when you read it? I mean, YOU posted the answer to this question yesterday. lol, You seem to have the hardest time with the most simple things.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:13 PM
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He was born to an American citizen on US soil, thus making him a natural US citizen.

You are better than this, coadie. Stop acting silly.



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However, “native citizen” is a colloquialism, not a legal term. It is not the same as “natural-born citizen,” the requirement to be president set out in Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.
You are still wrong.

We look for natural born U.s. citizen and not merely natural U S citizen

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bre...12/170430.html

Born to a british citizen and we do not know where.

After Stanley dunhams marriage in feb 1961, it seems we don't have any witness that she was in HI.

We all know his Daily Kos Cert was fake and a forgery.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:20 PM
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Re: Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate

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You are still wrong.

We look for natural born U.s. citizen and not merely natural U S citizen

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bre...12/170430.html

Born to a british citizen and we do not know where.

After Stanley dunhams marriage in feb 1961, it seems we don't have any witness that she was in HI.

We all know his Daily Kos Cert was fake and a forgery.
Coadie, end this once and for all.

Call the INS and ask one simple question...

Is someone considered to be a natural born US citizen even if their father is a British national, and would that same person be qualified for the presidency?

Please provide that name of the person you speak to, their number, and their answer.

Thank you.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:21 PM
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You are still wrong.

We look for natural born U.s. citizen and not merely natural U S citizen

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bre...12/170430.html

Born to a british citizen and we do not know where.

After Stanley dunhams marriage in feb 1961, it seems we don't have any witness that she was in HI.

We all know his Daily Kos Cert was fake and a forgery.
So once I helped you realize the error of you ways in regards to him not having to renounce his Kenyan citizenship, you move onto the next crazy thing. Niiice, we're making progress with you.

He was born on US soil. It does not matter if either of his parents were US citizens. He was born in the US, thus making him a natural born citizen. Please see the 14th amendment to verify this.

You THINK his Cert is a fake. Youdon't you speak for the rest of us, or the FEC., or the court systems, or the House of Representatives.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:27 PM
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Re: Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate

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Per YOUR link yesterday, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on his 21st birthday. Are you not reading the links you post? Did you skip over that part when you read it? I mean, YOU posted the answer to this question yesterday. lol, You seem to have the hardest time with the most simple things.
You made a dishonest claim It was Obama's link on Obama's site called Factcheck.org

You know I can't stand behind what Obama calls fact checked or fight the smears. Crooks can now clear themselvs by creating self edifying web sites.

I comment on the same things with several times and you willingly twist and make false claims, the same ones in repitition. That is one of the signs of deception.

Just to repeat your dishonest claim It is you that agreed with what Obama posted and It is you that refuse to do the following

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You have consumed too much koolaid.

I may in the near future share with you a 130+ page report that took many months to compile regarding his fakery.

This is a lie. I did not post the answer. I asked you the question and you still have not given your answer.
I posted obama's answer. Obmama's answer is false.


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YOU posted the answer to this question yesterday

On Obama's site:

http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9...rthcertificate

We see this.

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Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
It is Obama posting from factchek


didn't come from me.

I say it is false, it didn't come from me as you claim
You said factcheck is honest and I want you to prove what factcheck says is true.

You can't. Because it isn't true.
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