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Hoovie · #31 09-17-2009, 04:06 PM

Forget about UPC - one has to be blind not to know Hollywood has an unholy bias.

Jason B · #32 09-17-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Homosexuals raising children doesn't bother me near as much as heterosexuals who don't take care of theirs.

RandyWayne · #33 09-17-2009, 05:36 PM

I never heard of this show. Then again I know almost nothing about the stuff on network television. OK, I do watch Fringe and The Office (and my wife watches NCIS and CSI) but since we DVR everything we barely even notice the commercials for other shows as were flipping through them.

mfblume · #34 09-17-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Put me into the camp of "Placing a child into a homosexual "union" is abuse, and should be illegal" camp.

Ditto.

simplyme · #35 09-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I respectfully disagree. Romans 1 puts homosexuality in a category all by itself. God did not say he gave people over to anything else as He did to homosexuality due to people dishonouring God's glory and refusing to respect Him. There's is something significantly vile about God's image, man, being dealt with so as in homosexuality.

So, to me, and it seems God, it is worse than other atmospheres.

Romans 1:21-28 KJV Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. (24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: (25) Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. (26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

I know you do not condone homosexuality, but I think you are very wrong in saying it's no worse than other atmospheres. Whether or not children raised by them are not affected in certain ways, they are affected spiritually in ways we may never fully comprehend. Homosexuality is a spiritual issue since it slaps at the very image of God.

Excellent post, it contains GOD's TRUTHs!

We just canNOT undermine the severity of this spiritual horror that HIS
WORD so clearly abhors.

Withdrawn · #36 09-18-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I respectfully disagree. Romans 1 puts homosexuality in a category all by itself. God did not say he gave people over to anything else as He did to homosexuality due to people dishonouring God's glory and refusing to respect Him. There's is something significantly vile about God's image, man, being dealt with so as in homosexuality.

So, to me, and it seems God, it is worse than other atmospheres.

Romans 1:21-28 KJV Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. (24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: (25) Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. (26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

I know you do not condone homosexuality, but I think you are very wrong in saying it's no worse than other atmospheres. Whether or not children raised by them are not affected in certain ways, they are affected spiritually in ways we may never fully comprehend. Homosexuality is a spiritual issue since it slaps at the very image of God.

Thanks for this, Bro! I'm going to do my own prayer and study over this. I've never really understood it this way or heard anyone say anything like it (especially the bolded portion).

I must say that I've always had a similar view as HeavenlyOne on this - that ALL sin leads to death, with no degrees. Perhaps coming from my RCC background, I vigorously rejected the notion of "venial and mortal sins" with an unwise stance that was too far the other direction.

1Corinth2v4 · #37 09-18-2009, 09:13 AM

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Let's give the world the gospel...not the one according to the UPCI manuel....the one written as the inspired/God-breathed word...The BIBLE.

Who's Manuel, your gardener?

KWSS1976 · #38 09-18-2009, 09:17 AM

All this talk about sinning and so forth I have a question does god hate the sin or the sinner...?

KWSS1976 · #39 09-18-2009, 09:30 AM

Another ? for anyone that wants to answer what about the gay-lesibian that prays to god for the change in lifestyle not be gay anymore but it does not happen they are still the same does the bible not say ask and you shall receive....O by the way before you guys go to slamming I am not defending gays or lesbians but just asking questions..

Jeffrey · #40 09-18-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Another ? for anyone that wants to answer what about the gay-lesibian that prays to god for the change in lifestyle not be gay anymore but it does not happen they are still the same does the bible not say ask and you shall receive....O by the way before you guys go to slamming I am not defending gays or lesbians but just asking questions..

Always the infamous last words

To be inclined toward homosexuality and to act on it, IMO is a distinction. We are all incline toward sin, but we aren't living in sin, well, because we aren't living in it.

God's will is for the man/woman ultimately, is to be completely delivered, but even if it doesn't happen, celibacy is an alternative.

What do you think KWS?