Speaking In Tongues Does Not Equal Salvation. - Page 4

Digging4Truth · #31 08-09-2010, 09:57 AM

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I believe the precedent was set (Acts 2:47) and was not necessary to keep mentioning such a tremendous and promised phenomenon. Why would it be necessary after the upper room experience? It was happening. Today, there is so much doubt, it is easy to overlook something hiding in plain sight.

I also find it remarkable that those making the comments that the sign is not necessarily speaking in tongues - all DO speak in tongues. Don't you find that rather strange?

What is Acts 2:47 a precendent for? All that says is that God added to the church daily.

DAII · #32 08-09-2010, 10:00 AM

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What is Acts 2:47 a precendent for? All that says is that God added to the church daily.

The phenomenon is Salvation through Jesus Christ ... who gives the life quickening gift of the Holy Spirit ....

The rest is PO trying to validate her exclusive corner on Truth based on assumption.

PO ... search for Truth.

DAII · #33 08-09-2010, 10:06 AM

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DA... I know this is asking a lot... and... "no... I don't have time" is a perfectly good answer.

But would you be able to provide the scriptures for the 21 conversions in Acts? I don't have a list of that many conversions and it would help to have all of those instances.

Thank God for Bernie Gillespie ....

Here is a great tool that shows a customized chart showing how lop-sided the difference is ... when weighed with the 3 stepper paradigm of salvation ... in comparison to the universal concept of faith/belief/repentance ....

I'd keep in mind that I do not consider the Apostles in Acts 2 to be a conversion ....

http://inchristalone.org/Conversions.htm

The apostolic letters do not address the notion salvific tongues at all. It would seem paramount ... if it was so the case ... AND THE MESSAGE

No 6 HGs or 12 H20 status postings either.

Digging4Truth · #34 08-09-2010, 10:09 AM

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Thank God for Bernie Gillespie ....

Here is a great tool that shows a customized chart showing how lop-sided the difference is ... when weighed with the 3 stepper paradigm of salvation ... an comparison to the universal concept of faith/belief/repentance ....

I'd keep in mind that I do not consider the Apostles in Acts 2 to be a conversion ....

http://inchristalone.org/Conversions.htm

I figured that you did not count them as a conversion because you said 2 of 21 and there are 3 scriptures where tongues is mention in relation to someone receiving the Holy Ghost. It made the most sense that you were not considering the Apostles as a conversion.

Thanks for the link.

Pressing-On · #35 08-09-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

The phenomenon is Salvation through Jesus Christ ... who gives the life quickening gift of the Holy Spirit ....

The rest is PO trying to validate her exclusive corner on Truth based on assumption.

PO ... search for Truth.

Do I have to follow you? Not happenin'.

Pressing-On · #36 08-09-2010, 10:22 AM

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What is Acts 2:47 a precendent for? All that says is that God added to the church daily.

That what occurred at the beginning of Acts 2, was happening in verse 47. That is a precedent.

Hiding in plain sight.....

DAII · #37 08-09-2010, 10:22 AM

Only two conversions (Acts 10 and 19) ... in which we find tongues accompanying prophesying or magnifying the Lord (inferred and explicitly stated) as FIRST stated by God through the prophet Joel .... Let's preach the Word and not our fancies.

Those who call upon His name ... a Hebrew idiomatic expression for placing faith on the testator ... SHALL BE SAVED.

Pressing-On · #38 08-09-2010, 10:24 AM

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And so they believed what Peter told them when they asked what all of this they were seeing and hearing meant?

Acts 2:47 "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved."

Pressing-On · #39 08-09-2010, 10:26 AM

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I also find it remarkable that those making the comments that the sign is not necessarily speaking in tongues - all DO speak in tongues. Don't you find that rather strange?

And I ask again..........doesn't that seem rather strange?

DAII · #40 08-09-2010, 10:28 AM

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And so they believed what Peter told them when they asked what all of this they were seeing and hearing meant?

Acts 2:47 "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved."

It's too bad your definition for belief is not the biblical definition for believing ...

Again, those added the 3,000 or anyone added .... cannot be added to your count of "everyone in Acts spoke in tongues".

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