New Bar at Gound Zero

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I am shocked- we should be outraged. But instead I am reading those siding with those who would like to destroy us, and take away our religious freedoms.

They are abusing our freedoms to push theirs, they do not have any tolerance for what we believe they have agenda that they are not ashamed to push on us.

Anyway, I am getting stirred up here.

Yes, Liz. They know that they can use our freedom to subjugate us to theirs.

I met a young woman from Turkey about 18 years ago at the Galleria in Houston. She said, "You Americans don't understand. You are losing your freedom by your freedom." Chilling words and none so true!

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I am shocked- we should be outraged. But instead I am reading those siding with those who would like to destroy us, and take away our religious freedoms.

They are abusing our freedoms to push their beliefs, they do not have any tolerance for what we believe they have agenda that they are not ashamed to push on us.

Anyway, I am getting stirred up here.

Lol, they are not pushing their freedom, they are Americans. Their freedoms are the same as ours. They are simply using the same freedom of religion that any American has.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Lol, they are not pushing their freedom, they are Americans. Their freedoms are the same as ours. They are simply using the same freedom of religion that any American has.

Do we live in same country?? Where have you been the last 9yrs?

In schools the muslim community is seeking(some have succeed) to have us observe their holidays, set aside a day just for Islam to be taught-
http://humanrights.change.org/blog/v..._new_york_city

They are not using the same freedom of religion like anyone else, there is no other religion making the demands they have been making-for example demanding of the observance of Sharia Law, which some are obliging to.

http://newsflavor.com/opinions/obama...aw-on-america/

Are you unaware of what is going on in Europe and how the muslim religion is having a major influence on their laws?

I think you are somewhat ignorant on the topic-

And in reality, they will be the ones laughing-Lol.

[Socialite]

Fine, ignore me

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Socialite

First of all, before many knew anything about the Imam, his funding, etc... they were already outraged. It's dishonest to pretend any of those concerns are the reason for many to hide behind what is basically Islamophobia, or at the least, guilty of grouping all Muslims together as one monolithic group.

However, I do recognize there are some who have made judgements about this matter after obtaining all the information. This includes the fact that the Imam refuses to denounce terrorism (calling it "complex") or Hamas. Further, the proximity of this Muslim Paradise is suspect and very provocative. NYC what it is, it's not uncommon, but definitely provocative for Americans, and I get that. I don't understand the people who say they don't get that.

Originally Posted by Socialite

Fine, ignore me

Good post, I agree!!! I got busy and forgot to respond! LOL!

[Twisp]

Appreciate geekette taking over for a while. It was starting to sound like a birther thread in here, lol.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Appreciate geekette taking over for a while. It was starting to sound like a birther thread in here, lol.

You have to admit that was kind of fun!

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I know, I know, I am a riot. Good discussion today, PO. It was muy enjoyable. At the end of the day, our opinions are a wash and won't amount to a hill of beans. But I enjoyed the debate. Definitely made the day go by faster.

Now let's start on anchor babies...

lol

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I know, I know, I am a riot. Good discussion today, PO. At the end of the day, our opinions are a wash and won't amount to a hill of beans. But I enjoyed the debate. Definitely made the day go by faster.

Yes, it did go by fast and I had a free day for it. You are right, our opinions, at the end of day, don't make a hill of beans.

Thanks for the entertainment, you knothead!

Now let's start on anchor babies...

lol

Oh my gosh, you probably think we should allow it! Am I right?!!!!!

[Twisp]

Yes, it did go by fast and I had a free day for it. You are right, our opinions, at the end of day, don't make a hill of beans.

Thanks for the entertainment, you knothead!

You also, you also!

Oh my gosh, you probably think we should allow it! Am I right?!!!!!

Allow it? Shoot, we should encourage it and move those babies into government housing, STAT! lol