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Old 09-20-2010, 04:43 PM
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According to an account in the British press, the book says Michelle Obama complained about her life in the White House during a private dinner with the French first couple. The book quotes her as saying, in response to a question about being first lady: "Don't ask! It's hell. I can't stand it!"
There is a great circling of wagons and denial that the statement was ever made. it may still be true?

It is not PC to talk about hell.
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Sadly, there was (and still is) a sort of competition among preachers over who could be the "toughest" about any particular subject. NA Urshan even remarked about this in a message he preached at GC back in the late 1970s where he observed the "fads" that "our preachers" go through. One such fad was the "Tough Preacher."

For whatever reason, this problem was of such a concern that Bro. Urshan preached the same message repeatedly around the country - including in our church when he visited there.
Was this the same NAU message that invariably included the Siberian Seven who were oneness for generations? And did he preach this is his stylish white suit and white shoes?
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:46 PM
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coadie's just a stuck record. Hew doesn't even believe in a LITERAL interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2. He says so himself.
The Darwinists say the scripture can't be taken litterally.

Genesis 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The serpent says not to take stuff litterally.
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There is a great circling of wagons and denial that the statement was ever made. it may still be true?

It is not PC to talk about hell.
There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone please, please, please kill it?
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There is a great circling of wagons and denial that the statement was ever made. it may still be true?

It is not PC to talk about hell.
What does this have to do with the hell that is the discussion here?
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Quite correct Mike.

Jude 1:23 (ASV):

"... and some save, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh."

Jude 1:23 (NET):

"... save others by snatching them out of the fire; have mercy on others, coupled with a fear of God, hating even the clothes stained by the flesh."

The attitude of the one doing the preaching here ("with fear") is contrasted with the attitude of those who Jude is warning (Jude 1:12 = "without fear" or "without reverence").

WE, the believer who is reaching out to those whose garments are "spotted" are the ones who should "fear" (be in reverence) is the message of Jude.
But why should WE fear? Because we know they will be lost and destroyed in the lake of fire.
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There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone kill it?
Thank you, I think Coadie is just too smart for me. I can't understand most of his posts.
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Was this the same NAU message that invariably included the Siberian Seven who were oneness for generations? And did he preach this is his stylish white suit and white shoes?
It was the "white shoe era" - but the "Urshanites" in Russia had yet to be "discovered."
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There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone please, please, please kill it?
EDITED: I've been asking myself that question: What the.... errr.. what does this have to do with hell? LOL

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The Darwinists say the scripture can't be taken litterally.

Genesis 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The serpent says not to take stuff litterally.
No, the serpent said, "Don't believe the message."

And, since the accounts of creation in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 conflict when interpreted "litterally" (SIC), which one is "litteral" (SIC) and which one is not?
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