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Old 10-21-2010, 12:49 PM
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I think taking away the right for a man to have a non-journalistic opinion is a tragedy at its greatest.

They have the right to fire him, but I assure you majority of America will find it absurd, and that can adversely affect the integrity of NPR, which is a broadcasting company I've held in high esteem previously.

Slight overreaction?
Of course the majority of Americans won't like it. Based on the response to the recent Cultural Center in NY, and to other Mosque renovations throughout the country, Americans are just as scared of Muslims as he apparently is.

Whether the majority of Americans agree with it or not, it doesn't change the fact that he defined a huge majority of Muslims with the terrible, extreme actions of a few. No matter what race or religion, that is simply not right.

It would be akin to someone saying that all Christians are the same as the Westboro Baptist Church, simply because they profess to be the same religion, or simply because they dress like Westboro does.

That would not be right either.

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Old 10-21-2010, 12:54 PM
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Of course the majority of Americans won't like it. Based on the response to the recent Cultural Center in NY, and to other Mosque renovations throughout the country, Americans are just as scared of Muslims as he apparently is.

Whether the majority of Americans agree with it or not, it doesn't change the fact that he defined a huge majority of Muslims with the terrible, extreme actions of a few. No matter what race or religion, that is simply not right.

It would be akin to someone saying that all Christians are the same as the Westboro Baptist Church, simply because they profess to be the same religion, or simply because they dress like Westboro does.

That would not be right either.
He didn't define them at all, Twisp. In fact, his statement qualified that his emotions were not factually based. But his emotions are his emotions.

And America is definitely a little afraid of Muslims right now. We are in the middle of a war right now, mostly fueled by radical Islamists. Does that not seem normal? Can we hold our uncertainty in one hand, and our practical thought life in another?
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:54 PM
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Just goes to show you, sometimes we should just keep our comments to ourselves. Right or wrong.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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With all the bombings, planes being flown into our buildings, shoe bombers, soldier killings, ships being attacked, ("by Muslims") is there anyone on this forum that would place their hand on the Bible and the other hand on the AFF screen on your computer and say that when you get on a plane and there are Muslims, (known by the way that they dress) on board, that you don't have some element of unrest and concern come over you?

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Like O'Reilly said. "Aw come on. We all know they weren't Norwegians"
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:59 PM
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Just goes to show you, sometimes we should just keep our comments to ourselves. Right or wrong.
And that's how we became a Free Society... NOT!
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:04 PM
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In a blunt assessment of race relations in the United States, Attorney General Eric Holder Wednesday called the American people "essentially a nation of cowards" in failing to openly discuss the issue of race.In his first major speech since being confirmed, the nation's first black attorney general told an overflow crowd celebrating Black History Month at the Justice Department the nation remains "voluntarily socially segregated."

"Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," Holder declared
What a spoook. Now Holder from The DOJ makes this claim, Juan has the guts to speak up and he is history.

Poor Juan was being "transparent" and "open" Sharing his "feelings"

This confused generation can't decide if it wants to stand for something or live the limp as a noodle lifestyle.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:13 PM
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And that's how we became a Free Society... NOT!
Just because we have freedom of speech, doesn't mean we should always speak what's on our minds.
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Just because we have freedom of speech, doesn't mean we should always speak what's on our minds.
I am a living testament. My wife asked "does this dress make me look fat"

The truth was no where to be found.
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Ok, I'm "Mr. Sensitive, PC" here on good ole AFF, but I cannot believe Juan Williams was fired for saying this. For sure, he's skirting the edge, but I don't think he went over the edge with this at all. WalksinIslam, are you around? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Here's what Williams said on the O'Reilly show:

"I'm not a bigot, but when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."
Americans are not allowed to speak or think their own opinions anymore. They are expected to lie or keep it to themselves, no honest opinion. The thought police are upon us
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With all the bombings, planes being flown into our buildings, shoe bombers, soldier killings, ships being attacked, ("by Muslims") is there anyone on this forum that would place their hand on the Bible and the other hand on the AFF screen on your computer and say that when you get on a plane and there are Muslims, (known by the way that they dress) on board, that you don't have some element of unrest and concern come over you?

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Well, if they were there to blow up or hijack the plane, wouldn't they try to dress more inconspicuously so they could get on more easily?
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