I think there is a chance that they come a little to the right, just to get things done. Of course, they have accomplished a good bit of what they wanted already.
Their other avenue of action is to try and pass bills, let the Republicans gridlock everything, and point that out to the voters in 2012.
It's not going to be seen as a gridlock by the republicans, it's going to be seen as Obam not willing to reach a compromise. And you might want to consider the fact that the bills that have been passed were just rejected.
You'll have to wait a few more generations to get your socialist uptopia, there's still just enough Americans left who want to see the constitution upheld.
Republicans would have had to win a VETO PROOF majority in both houses to repeal healtcare.
What they can do for the next two years, is pass (in the house) bills that repeal the most unpopular aspects of the bill and keep pressure on Obama to either admit mistakes or defend the indefensable.
Not winning the senate gives the republicans cover (according to Joe Trippy a major democrat stratigist). Obama cant simply point at a do-nothing republican congress and run against that.
Republicans have a real chance to move things to the center and take credit for any economic rebound.
they also are well positioned to say that the stimulus bill may be providing very slow growth but it could have been far better if it had not contained so much deficit spending.
That doesnt mean beans if the economy is booming in 2012. If things are really good and unemployment is below 6% Obama gets re-elected no matter who runs against him. It might very well be that repbulcans gain the Senate and have a stronger control of the house but fail to win the Whitehouse because Americans may very well remember the very good days of Clinton/Gringrich.
and (and this is really important) Republicans will have zero chance of beating Obama if there is a conservative third party run at the presidency.
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I think there is a chance that they come a little to the right, just to get things done. Of course, they have accomplished a good bit of what they wanted already.
Their other avenue of action is to try and pass bills, let the Republicans gridlock everything, and point that out to the voters in 2012.
"The Republican Party is being told to be the party of "no". No more stimulus spending, no cap and trade, no card check, none of this other stuff. Gridlock is not an American problem, it's an achievement. The framers of our Constitution didn't want an efficient government, they wanted a safe government. To which end, they filled it with slow end and blocking mechanisms - three branches of government, two branches of the legislative branch, a veto-veto override, super majority and judicial review. When we have gridlock, the system is working." - George Will
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Republicans would have had to win a VETO PROOF majority in both houses to repeal healtcare.
What they can do for the next two years, is pass (in the house) bills that repeal the most unpopular aspects of the bill and keep pressure on Obama to either admit mistakes or defend the indefensable.
Not winning the senate gives the republicans cover (according to Joe Trippy a major democrat stratigist). Obama cant simply point at a do-nothing republican congress and run against that.
Republicans have a real chance to move things to the center and take credit for any economic rebound.
they also are well positioned to say that the stimulus bill may be providing very slow growth but it could have been far better if it had not contained so much deficit spending.
That doesn't mean beans if the economy is booming in 2012. If things are really good and unemployment is below 6% Obama gets re-elected no matter who runs against him. It might very well be that republicans gain the Senate and have a stronger control of the house but fail to win the Whitehouse because Americans may very well remember the very good days of Clinton/Gingrich.
and (and this is really important) Republicans will have zero chance of beating Obama if there is a conservative third party run at the presidency.
Ferd,
Do you think this is still going to prove true given the volatile climate which forged the Tea Party Movement? They were very instrumental is turning this election around. It doesn't feel like the same old, same old, IMO.
It was a landslide/Tsunami... whatever you want to call it and it was the best possible scenario for the republicans.
Not winning the Senate was likely a good thing for Republicans. it keeps Obama from simply running against congress.
But the real story is that that Republicans won HUGE in governor races and they won in very important swing states in the Mid West.
Secondly Republicans won BIG in State Legislatures again in those vital swing states with lots of House members.
This is a census year and these Republicans in these houses and governors offices will be redrawing congressional districts and building state wide party machines that will help the Republican in the 2012 elections.
this will be the second cencus in a row with strong Republican controll of redistricting. That is a HUGE advantage that can go a long way to building a massive wall against democrats regaining control of the House.
THAT is the real landslide in this election.
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Republicans would have had to win a VETO PROOF majority in both houses to repeal healthcare.
What they can do for the next two years, is pass (in the house) bills that repeal the most unpopular aspects of the bill and keep pressure on Obama to either admit mistakes or defend the indefensible.
Agreed. And what Gingrich has said, "There are 159 new offices, agencies, and commissions in this new bill," Gingrich explained. "All you say is, we're not gonna fund them. And you have in effect, stopped the project."
Ferd,
Do you think this is still going to prove true given the volatile climate which forged the Tea Party Movement? They were very instrumental is turning this election around. It doesn't feel like the same old, same old, IMO.
The econonmy trumps everything. it always has.
the good news for Republicans is that Obama seems committed to the same kind of policy that Japan has used, and which gave them the "lost decade"
the wild card here is Afghanistan. if that goes south on him he is done big time.
Republicans will be able to say that he neither withdrew nor went all in and that dalling around doing neither could be a real sour spot for American voters.
We are tired of war. Democrats wont be able to say "rebulicans got us into this" because all those Republicans are gone.
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Agreed. And what Gingrich has said, "There are 159 new offices, agencies, and commissions in this new bill," Gingrich explained. "All you say is, we're not gonna fund them. And you have in effect, stopped the project."
and they need to do them piecemeal
just a few at a time. Keep pressure for 2 years on Obama to defend the things that 75% of Americans HATE
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It was a landslide/Tsunami... whatever you want to call it and it was the best possible scenario for the republicans.
Not winning the Senate was likely a good thing for Republicans. it keeps Obama from simply running against congress.
But the real story is that that Republicans won HUGE in governor races and they won in very important swing states in the Mid West.
Secondly Republicans won BIG in State Legislatures again in those vital swing states with lots of House members.
This is a census year and these Republicans in these houses and governors offices will be redrawing congressional districts and building state wide party machines that will help the Republican in the 2012 elections.
this will be the second cencus in a row with strong Republican control of redistricting. That is a HUGE advantage that can go a long way to building a massive wall against democrats regaining control of the House.
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