Refutation of Pentecostal Beliefs

[livefortruth]

that which is perfect is obvious in the context of 1 corinthians chapter one where paul prays that the church would be built up through spiritual gifts until the lord jesus christ comes and the rapture occurs. Read it. Gifts will continue until jesus comes and this includes all of them dillxn.

[livefortruth]

Also Paul specifically mentions UNKNOW TONGUES.

[livefortruth]

So by the same logic, if it was stated once that speaking in tongues was of human languages, but other times not specified what language it was, then we must assume it was always of human languages. Since we do not have any scripture stating otherwise. And using the scriptures you posted to infer that is a stretch at best. bY DILLXN

WELL YOUR LOGIC IS IN ERROR IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

Also Paul specifically mentions UNKNOW TONGUES.

The word "unknown" is in italics which means it is not in the original Greek.
Verses 2 and 14-16 indicate that the tongues/languages are unknown to both the hearer and speaker.

[Falla39]

My Father is all powerful
And that you can't deny
A God of might and miracles
It's written in the sky.

It took a miracle to put the stars in place
It took a miracle to hang the world in space
But when He saved my soul cleansed and made me whole
It took a miracle of love and grace.

The bible tells us of his pow'r
And wisdom all way through
And every little bird and flow'r
Are testimonies too.

It took a miracle to put the stars in place
It took a miracle to hang the world in space
But when He saved my soul cleansed and made me whole
It took a miracle of love and grace...

Falla39

[scotty]

Hmmm, 18 yr old kid, with self-righteous knowledge sows seeds of discontent into a 17 yr old child of God leading her astray.

Not the shoes I would want to be in come judgement day.

[JN Anderson]

Saw your thread dillxn. I don't have time to read it but I do have a blog on Oneness Pentecostal theology with a couple hundred articles. I welcome your disagreements or challenge's to my views. You can comment there or send me an email if you are interested in debate or discussion.

www.evidentialfaith.blogspot.com

[KWSS1976]

Lets not leave out the snake handling Pentecostals..those are the real Pentecostals
they have real faith..No pentecostal church I have been to has had that much faith they must be lacking...lol

[KWSS1976]

Im kind of like dillxn in a way the first time tongues took place it was the first time the holyghost was given and the tongues followed but it was an understood language according to text and I have yet to see someone get the "holyghost with the evidence" and understood what they were saying. So that brings my other question where in scripture is the holyghost given and the tongues not an understood language?

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Im kind of like dillxn in a way the first time tongues took place it was the first time the holyghost was given and the tongues followed but it was an understood language according to text and I have yet to see someone get the "holyghost with the evidence" and understood what they were saying. So that brings my other question where in scripture is the holyghost given and the tongues not an understood language?

If you read real carefully the speakers in Acts 2 did not understand what they were saying because they were speaking in all types of foreign languages yet they were all Galileans. All the people in Jerusalem for the feast of Pentecost were from multiple countries and it is them who understand what the speakers were saying and it is them who Peter said to repent and be baptized