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11-11-2010, 02:35 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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So you're arguing that it's better to have millions of people tens of thousands of dollars in debt?
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As a bank stockholder, is it reasonable for us to expect people to pay back the money? Then they would be out of debt and their credit would aallow them to borrow for a car or other stuff.
I could be wrong, but university tuition is free in Cuba. Some of my doc buddies came here any way. How is Cuba doing?
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11-11-2010, 03:32 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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As a bank stockholder, is it reasonable for us to expect people to pay back the money? Then they would be out of debt and their credit would aallow them to borrow for a car or other stuff.
I could be wrong, but university tuition is free in Cuba. Some of my doc buddies came here any way. How is Cuba doing?
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University tuition is free in a lot of other countries - the fact that Cuba's is free means nothing.
The point is not that people's student loans should be forgiven, but that they shouldn't be there to begin with.
It's obvious you're perfect - have a nice day.
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11-11-2010, 03:50 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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University tuition is free in a lot of other countries - the fact that Cuba's is free means nothing.
The point is not that people's student loans should be forgiven, but that they shouldn't be there to begin with.
It's obvious you're perfect - have a nice day.
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Tell us why?
Then see if you are strong enough to explain why people borrowed money and loans should be forgiven and people that worked and paid for their education don't get the same pay back.
You are rewarding bad behavior. Is that what we should teach people?
Socialists amaze me. I suspect you also feel kids that flunk should also be forgiven.
Reminds me of a friend that paid some classmate to take tests for him in medical school.
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11-11-2010, 04:03 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Tell us why?
Then see if you are strong enough to explain why people borrowed money and loans should be forgiven and people that worked and paid for their education don't get the same pay back.
You are rewarding bad behavior. Is that what we should teach people?
Socialists amaze me. I suspect you also feel kids that flunk should also be forgiven.
Reminds me of a friend that paid some classmate to take tests for him in medical school.
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He's not saying that loans should be forgiven.
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11-11-2010, 04:11 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Thousands of students in Briton are protesting with signs that read "Free Education Now".
What do you think about that? Does that seem weird to anyone besides me?
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I would tell them "Ok we won't raise tuition. We'll raise your taxes on everything else so you can have free education". Maybe they will get it then
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11-11-2010, 04:13 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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He's not saying that loans should be forgiven.
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There is no such a thing as free education. The question is who pays for it and how. If it has an appearnce of no tuition, it may be offset by high taxes later.
How much can a Cuban doctor make? A bunch if he goes to Miami.
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11-11-2010, 04:15 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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I think all public universities should be free.
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So who pays the professors teaching classes? Who pays for the lights and other utilities? etc etc etc?
Personally I think everything should be free...it would be nice. But ultimately things cost money.
So if you give away an education for free to someone, it's still not really free. States, cities or even Countries have to pay for it somehow and that somehow is taxes and fees on other stuff.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-11-2010, 04:17 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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I would tell them "Ok we won't raise tuition. We'll raise your taxes on everything else so you can have free education". Maybe they will get it then
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A friend of mine was an orthopaedic surgeon in the UK. When he came over here, he paid his physical therapist twice what he was making in England.
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11-11-2010, 04:20 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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So who pays the professors teaching classes? Who pays for the lights and other utilities? etc etc etc?
Personally I think everything should be free...it would be nice. But ultimately things cost money.
So if you give away an education for free to someone, it's still not really free. States, cities or even Countries have to pay for it somehow and that somehow is taxes and fees on other stuff.
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In some schools within Universities, the professor salaries must be very high to keep the profs from going into industry.
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11-11-2010, 04:52 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
The expectation of anyone receiving any free education is just weird to me.
Why not a free house? Free food? Free medical?
Oh, wait!?! We do that too?
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