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12-07-2010, 07:03 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Jesus came to his disciples after his resurrection in Luke 24.
Luke 24:44,45
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
He then further instructed them.
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
A few days later in the city of Jerusalem, they received the Promise of the
Father who would lead them and guide them into all truth.
They that are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. We hear
the Word of God. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
Then we received the Promise of the Father, which opens our understanding
to the Word of God. Too many lean upon their own understanding. God's Word
says NOT to do that! Let (allow, permit) the Spirit open our understanding
that we might understand the Word.
We must also study to approve ourselves unto God, a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word.
Falla39
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Isn't that leaning on our own understanding when we interpret the scripture outside the intended meaning?
Isn't rightly dividing the word exactly what I was suggesting?
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12-07-2010, 07:09 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Some good verses:
Romans 12:1,2
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
1Cor. 6:19,20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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If we PRESENT our bodies a LIVING SACRIFICE, HOLY and ACCEPTABLE unto
GOD, which is our REASONABLE service, with the leading of the HOLY GHOST,
we will know how to apply Biblical Modesty! The older women teaching the younger.
We will also know how to GLORIFY GOD in our BODIES and in our spirit, which
belong to God.
My late parents instructed me when I was a child. They "laid down the law"
so to speak. Those laws were the schoolmaster that brought me to Christ.
I became a "woMAN". I matured. I put away childish things. I am no longer
under the "law" that brought me to Christ. I willingly follow HIM, by His Spirit
that has dwelled (lived, made his abode) in me for over 50 yrs.
Falla39
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12-07-2010, 07:23 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Isn't that leaning on our own understanding when we interpret the scripture outside the intended meaning?
Isn't rightly dividing the word exactly what I was suggesting?
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Leaning on our own understanding is when we try to figure out the intended
meaning with our own understanding. We must allow the Holy Ghost to open
our understanding to the interpretion. Sometimes that takes waiting on HIM.
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12-07-2010, 07:44 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Isn't that leaning on our own understanding when we interpret the scripture outside the intended meaning?
Isn't rightly dividing the word exactly what I was suggesting?
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YES! You did well...
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12-07-2010, 07:50 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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I've seen several posts that reference 'biblical modesty'. What exactly is biblical modesty? What does the Bible tell us about dressing modestly?
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Genesis 3:21 And the Lord God made clothing from animal skins for Adam and his wife.
This is why I wear my biker leather all the time. Clothing from animal skin, just like the Bible says.
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12-07-2010, 07:51 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
First of all, I agree with Falla that the older women should teach the younger women. One of the things that should be taught is appropriate behavior and dress. However, I do have a problem with it when those concepts are taken out of that casual atmosphere and made to be equivalent to the 10 Commandments or the teachings of Jesus.
Secondly, I do agree that a principle can be drawn from a scripture and applied to many different areas that may not relate specifically to the original topic. Again, however, if you apply it that way, you can't then go back and teach from the scripture as if it applies specifically to one particular area. Well, you can, but it's inconsistent.
The TRUTH is, the Bible leaves modesty up to the individual and the individual situation. The PROBLEM is, many Christians are control freaks, and they can't handle it if someone else interprets a scripture differently than they do, or applies it differently than they do, if at all.
I say preach or teach what is found plainly in the Word, and then let the WORD convict people's hearts and lead them where they need to go. What often is really meant by "let the Holy Ghost lead you" is "let your pastor tell you what that verse means." Very few Apostolic churches let their congregants decide for themselves through prayer and Bible study what is modest or immodest dress and behavior. That's too big of a risk, and it's mainly risky because it could cause a congregation to fall outside of what is acceptable in the eyes of the pastors' peers.
(Disclaimer: I'm NOT opposed to pastoral authority, so let's not take that tangent.)
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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12-07-2010, 07:53 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
Someone is opposed to pastoral authority.
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12-07-2010, 07:54 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Originally Posted by houston
Someone is opposed to pastoral authority.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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12-07-2010, 08:00 AM
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My Family!
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
First of all, I agree with Falla that the older women should teach the younger women. One of the things that should be taught is appropriate behavior and dress. However, I do have a problem with it when those concepts are taken out of that casual atmosphere and made to be equivalent to the 10 Commandments or the teachings of Jesus.
Secondly, I do agree that a principle can be drawn from a scripture and applied to many different areas that may not relate specifically to the original topic. Again, however, if you apply it that way, you can't then go back and teach from the scripture as if it applies specifically to one particular area. Well, you can, but it's inconsistent.
The TRUTH is, the Bible leaves modesty up to the individual and the individual situation. The PROBLEM is, many Christians are control freaks, and they can't handle it if someone else interprets a scripture differently than they do, or applies it differently than they do, if at all.
I say preach or teach what is found plainly in the Word, and then let the WORD convict people's hearts and lead them where they need to go. What often is really meant by "let the Holy Ghost lead you" is "let your pastor tell you what that verse means." Very few Apostolic churches let their congregants decide for themselves through prayer and Bible study what is modest or immodest dress and behavior. That's too big of a risk, and it's mainly risky because it could cause a congregation to fall outside of what is acceptable in the eyes of the pastors' peers.
(Disclaimer: I'm NOT opposed to pastoral authority, so let's not take that tangent.)
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Couldn't agree more!
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12-07-2010, 08:37 AM
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Re: What is Biblical Modesty?
When I was speaking of my parents "laying down the law", that was just an expression
of they "trained us up in the way we SHOULD go". In other words we were disciplined in
the home as children. My late father happened to be our pastor for over 30 yrs. He taught
disciplines lifestyles. We taught our children, and they are teaching their children
disciplined lifestyles.
Due to our teaching as children, young adults, etc., we have been
married 51 yrs, have six adult "children", all married to their original spouses, 21 grand-
children, one great-grandchild. We all continue to attend church, live disciplined life-
styles, trust in the Living GOD! My late father was the authority in our home growing up,
teamed with our mother. We were taught to respect authority in the home first. We were
taught to obey the laws of our land, etc. We were taught to love God first and foremost.
Let God be true and not man.
Today my parents are gone, but I was taught to look unto Jesus, the Author and the Finisher
of our faith.
What were the Children of Israel commanded to teach their children!
Falla39
Last edited by Falla39; 12-07-2010 at 08:55 AM.
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