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01-08-2011, 10:14 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
I have never heard of this before. Amazing.
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01-08-2011, 10:17 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
When I was around 15 or 16 years old, at Illinois Youth Camp they did a hair check on boys, and about 25-30 of us were put on a church bus and driven into town for haircuts. There were three guys from our church on that bus besides me. Two of them were not saved.
I do not know for sure how the haircuts were paid for, but I think the pastor of the church were the boys came from was billed for the expense!
I went from a "cool" haircut with my hair barely touching the top of my ears and collar, to a crew cut!! All of us boys became the laughing stock of the camp, which I guess is what the leaders were hoping for. I don't know if I've ever been so humiliated in my life!
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What younger folks reading these posts have to realize is that in the timeframe you and I are posting about the style of the day was for mens hair to either just touch or go down over the ear. It was generally considered a sin for a UPC boy to have hair touching his ears. We are not talking long haired hippies with hair flowing down their backs! Sounds like your case was like mine where the hair was barely to or over the ear.
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01-08-2011, 10:26 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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I have never heard of this before. Amazing. 
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Really? This has brought back some memories for me.
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01-08-2011, 10:28 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
You guys just need to admit you were trying to grow holy hair.
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01-08-2011, 10:29 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
When I was around 15 or 16 years old, at Illinois Youth Camp they did a hair check on boys, and about 25-30 of us were put on a church bus and driven into town for haircuts. There were three guys from our church on that bus besides me. Two of them were not saved.
I do not know for sure how the haircuts were paid for, but I think the pastor of the church were the boys came from was billed for the expense!
I went from a "cool" haircut with my hair barely touching the top of my ears and collar, to a crew cut!! All of us boys became the laughing stock of the camp, which I guess is what the leaders were hoping for. I don't know if I've ever been so humiliated in my life!
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I wonder if any of the men who did this, assuming they are still alive, would actually apologies to you and the other boys involved, or would they just laugh it off expecting you to do the same?
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01-08-2011, 10:33 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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I wonder if any of the men who did this, assuming they are still alive, would actually apologies to you and the other boys involved, or would they just laugh it off expecting you to do the same?
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Those who hacked on my hair would still stand by their positions. Interesting....it was the Illinois camp of which I spoke and we didn't get the advantage of a "pro" haircut.....some old nut just whacked on my hair himself. My sin? My hair was TOUCHING my ears.
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01-08-2011, 10:54 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
Well, I never went to youth camp either. Don't plan on going any time soon.
Actually, back in 1962 (in the pre Vietnam protest days), while on active duty with the US Army, I was ordered to grow a beard (my first one). Of course, the Navy continued to allow beards until what, the mid 70's (What say the Old Salts, I forget the year)?
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01-08-2011, 11:33 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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Originally Posted by CC1
... I took it in stride but felt really bad for two boys who were not Pentecostal but guests of a Pentecostal boy who invited them to camp in hopes they would get saved. I bet they remember that nonsense to this day.
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Well, did they get saved?
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01-08-2011, 11:35 AM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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Originally Posted by notofworks
Those who hacked on my hair would still stand by their positions. Interesting....it was the Illinois camp of which I spoke and we didn't get the advantage of a "pro" haircut.....some old nut just whacked on my hair himself. My sin? My hair was TOUCHING my ears.
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NOW, you should have known what the Bible says about hair touching a male's ears.
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01-08-2011, 01:09 PM
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Re: Youth Camp Haircuts
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Originally Posted by CC1
What younger folks reading these posts have to realize is that in the timeframe you and I are posting about the style of the day was for mens hair to either just touch or go down over the ear. It was generally considered a sin for a UPC boy to have hair touching his ears. We are not talking long haired hippies with hair flowing down their backs! Sounds like your case was like mine where the hair was barely to or over the ear.
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This is true! To some pastors, it was a sin to have a boys hair even come close to touching his ears! My hair was barely even touching the top of my ears. It was not covering any part of my ears. Wow! I just realized that I'm still harboring bitterness over that incident! hahaha!
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