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Old 01-12-2011, 04:08 PM
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Re: GPS Tracking of Pedophiles, is it a Good Thing

I don't think this is a good idea.

It's overkill.

If the pedophile was making an attempt to live a normal healthy life, this would be a huge mental hindrance.


We should not keep punishing people once they have been punished and have served their time.
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:32 PM
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Re: GPS Tracking of Pedophiles, is it a Good Thing

Served their time JD? ,no the victim is serving their time (for life).Have you ever known of a pedofile who has been cured ? I havent,they have entire PODS in the state prisons for these perverts(they wouldnt survive any other way) and the things they have done are not even printed in the newspapers ,my son was a prison guard and he could make you puke with the accounts of their crimes.
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:37 PM
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Re: GPS Tracking of Pedophiles, is it a Good Thing

I don't want to know their crimes.

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Because it seems that most pedophiles will repeat if not held to a stricter accountability code does not mean that ALL will repeat and it does not mean that they should have a GPS attached to their person at all times.

If that's what you want, then you're a person that's wanting an expansion of government into the everyday lives of Americans that would be completely unprecedented.

The same GPS used on them will be used on those who cry the loudest for overkill in matters like this.


Give people the chance to live, or just kill them and be done with it. At least in countries like Iran, the condemned won't suffer but for so long.
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Served their time JD? ,no the victim is serving their time (for life).Have you ever known of a pedofile who has been cured ? I havent,they have entire PODS in the state prisons for these perverts(they wouldnt survive any other way) and the things they have done are not even printed in the newspapers ,my son was a prison guard and he could make you puke with the accounts of their crimes.
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Even when the world writes you off...

Their recovery isn't one-dimensional. Even the self-righteous convicts treat them as a low life, abuse them, etc... DA's, probation officers, judges -- even ACLU attorney's are skiddish of defending any parole situations where something shady is going down in fear of "defending of pedophile." It's a lifelong stigma. They wear it. It's over their head. We pound that in their mind and hearts that they are pedophiles.

It's also important to realize the difference between those with mental disorders that are pedos, and others.

I knew a guy who was hooked on porn, depressed, addicted to drugs and separated from his wife. His best friend asked him to babysit his 3-year old daughter. One time having a child walk in while you are aroused and high as a kite... not defending him, but understanding how sinful and selfish we can be in a moment. The young guy rubbed his genitals on this young child. Horrible. Victimizing. But the system took his life. From the DA's, to the inmates, later after being released the homeless shelter friends, family, everywhere he went. Eventually the young guy had a nervous breakdown, and... went insane. He's being treated at one of the worst institutions in our state. I have already confirmed that this young man is being raped and abused, while guards and other inmates look the other way.

If these guys never change, we shouldn't think it's such an easy explanation. There is no redemption for ANY of them.
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I don't want to know their crimes.

Everyone deserves a second chance.

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Clearly, whether they get a second chance does depend on what their crime was, IMO.
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Clearly, whether they get a second chance does depend on what their crime was, IMO.
That is what life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty is for.

If we are going to jail and eventually release our offenders, we need to give them at the bare minimum a good shot at living a normal life once they have served their time.

If additional accountability is warranted, so be it. I'm not against common sense precautions and procedures to protect the general public.

GPS on offenders who have served their time is out of bounds and unconstitutional.


In America, offenders have rights too-- even the more despicable offenders.
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Amazing Grace...


Even when the world writes you off...

Their recovery isn't one-dimensional. Even the self-righteous convicts treat them as a low life, abuse them, etc... DA's, probation officers, judges -- even ACLU attorney's are skiddish of defending any parole situations where something shady is going down in fear of "defending of pedophile." It's a lifelong stigma. They wear it. It's over their head. We pound that in their mind and hearts that they are pedophiles.

It's also important to realize the difference between those with mental disorders that are pedos, and others.

I knew a guy who was hooked on porn, depressed, addicted to drugs and separated from his wife. His best friend asked him to babysit his 3-year old daughter. One time having a child walk in while you are aroused and high as a kite... not defending him, but understanding how sinful and selfish we can be in a moment. The young guy rubbed his genitals on this young child. Horrible. Victimizing. But the system took his life. From the DA's, to the inmates, later after being released the homeless shelter friends, family, everywhere he went. Eventually the young guy had a nervous breakdown, and... went insane. He's being treated at one of the worst institutions in our state. I have already confirmed that this young man is being raped and abused, while guards and other inmates look the other way.

If these guys never change, we shouldn't think it's such an easy explanation. There is no redemption for ANY of them.
Sad story for all parties involved.
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Old 01-12-2011, 05:16 PM
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Re: GPS Tracking of Pedophiles, is it a Good Thing

I believe God changes humans.

I believe that humans have the power to change, even if by their own free will alone.

I believe humans have the ability to be changed by whoever or wahtever they allow themselves to be subject to.
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That is what life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty is for.

If we are going to jail and eventually release our offenders, we need to give them at the bare minimum a good shot at living a normal life once they have served their time.

If additional accountability is warranted, so be it. I'm not against common sense precautions and procedures to protect the general public.

GPS on offenders who have served their time is out of bounds and unconstitutional.


In America, offenders have rights too-- even the more despicable
offenders.
Ok I misunderstood.

I tend to agree, I would rather see one serve 30 yrs than be out in 15 on "good behavior" with an ankle GPS. The GPS does sound like an infringement of rights I guess...
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Re: GPS Tracking of Pedophiles, is it a Good Thing

From what I've read, prison is not the best method of rehabilitation for many offenders. Prison protects non-offenders, and groups offenders together in a controlled environment, but when the offenders are released they have to start life over again with lower employability (which contributes to higher crime) and so forth. Pedophiles are also treated the worst by other criminals within the prison system because even a murderer looks down on a pedophile (so I've heard/read/understood). An anklet doesn't stop a person from getting a job or doing any certain tasks; it only monitors the person to prevent the crime--without imprisonment for the crime. There's a good possibility that this will become the prison of the future-imagine a world where molesters are kept from places children gather, people charged with drug possession/dealing are monitored by a similar device to track blood chemistry, DUIs have to take a breathalizer to start their cars... there would still be crime, but certain crimes could be stopped or hindered quickly and with little government cost compared to prison.

Not saying I completely agree, but I think it will happen eventually.
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