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02-04-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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WOW! CC1!  I would have never imagined they did all that!!! |
Yup. I have quite a bit experience with Hollywood and movie making but I was also quite surprised at many of the things they used green screen for.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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02-04-2011, 10:16 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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A death glider?
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Or Destiny.
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02-04-2011, 10:19 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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Yup. I have quite a bit experience with Hollywood and movie making but I was also quite surprised at many of the things they used green screen for.
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Have you caught any episodes of Paranormal Files: Fact or Faked? yet? I didn't have really high hopes for it after watching the first episode but it is actually pretty good.
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02-04-2011, 10:21 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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No arrogance here CC1. I know God created other creatures other than man and the other life on Earth. They're called Angels. I do however, find it difficult to relate the story of man's fall in the Garden of Eden and it's implications for creation if there were other civilisations on other planets dependent on it.
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And any civilization we may be looking at in another galaxy is probably long gone considering it would millions of years old(er) by now anyways.
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02-05-2011, 02:24 AM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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Many years ago at a convention in an Apostolic Church (PCAF) in Cincinnati I heard a minister put forth the suggestion that there may be life of some kind on other planets but only the creatures here on earth sinned and the story of the Shepherd leaving the 99 to find the 1 who was lost or strayed may be the story of God coming to earth in Christ to seek and to save that which was lost.
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I've actually thought about things like this myself and it sounds reasonable except for one thing. If you read the Genesis story of creation, the Earth is set aside as being distinct from everything else. Earth was made on day one. All the stars, sun and moon on the fourth day. They were created for signs, and seasons and for days and years.
The only way I can interpret these scriptures is that it was all created for this planet. I'm not the greatest theologian and I'm sure that someone could find something that I've missed but I have used these sorts of scriptures to come to the conclusion that interstellar aliens don't line up with the Biblical account.
As for the previous post stating that the poster can't believe that God made this vast universe and left it empty, I honestly think that God wouldn't see the universe as vast at all. He spoke it into existence, he is greater than the sum of all creation to the infinite degree. His creation declares his glory to us and until I see otherwise scripturally, I can't believe that there are aliens living on other planets.
Sorry about the length of the post, just trying to state the reasons behind my original post. Cheers.
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02-05-2011, 07:41 AM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
Not to be argumentive about the creation of the earth, you might want to re-check the earths creation time frame. The words," In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Look that word begining up in the Hebrew definition, then notice that the earth is in darkness, void, and water is covering the face ot it,( probably ice at this point)
It appears there may have been a prexisting creation before us. No one can really say for sure. Many have theories about this, however I have no opinion at this time.
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02-05-2011, 09:44 AM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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And any civilization we may be looking at in another galaxy is probably long gone considering it would millions of years old(er) by now anyways.
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Yup but soon as we get that whole warp drive thing figured out and can travel faster than light we will be able to find ones that still exist!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-05-2011, 10:24 AM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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Yup but soon as we get that whole warp drive thing figured out and can travel faster than light we will be able to find ones that still exist!
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And with a few zero point modules powering these ships it would be mere days between galaxies -at least the close ones.
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02-05-2011, 02:48 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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Not to be argumentive about the creation of the earth, you might want to re-check the earths creation time frame. The words," In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Look that word begining up in the Hebrew definition, then notice that the earth is in darkness, void, and water is covering the face ot it,( probably ice at this point)
It appears there may have been a prexisting creation before us. No one can really say for sure. Many have theories about this, however I have no opinion at this time.
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I've had a good look into gap theory and it has its merits. I have also listened to sermons with hebraic scholars that have disagreed with the undertones of meaning of the words in these passages which hasn't helped me out too much. I haven't the first idea regarding the hebrew language.
I know that there are other theories out there but will freely admit that I haven't chased those white rabbits down their respective holes. In the fullness of time I guess we'll know for sure... let's make the most of it until then. 
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02-05-2011, 03:07 PM
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Re: UFO see over Jerusalem?
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And any civilization we may be looking at in another galaxy is probably long gone considering it would millions of years old(er) by now anyways.
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Or they have moved on to a higher plane of existence and remain aloof and uninvolved in the affairs of man, except for a few here and there
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