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Old 06-07-2011, 09:58 PM
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kjv.. try hooked on phonics lol.
i have been hooked on many things but phonics wasnt one of them. Infact i sorta slept when i could in english class.

I hate grammer.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:31 PM
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Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The passage suggests two separate and distinct classes of entities which were present at creation. The morning stars (plural) and the sons of God (plural).

One entity who specifically has the morning star attributes is Lucifer....

Isa 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!

Of course there's more than one morning star as indicated by the passage "the morning stars sang together" (plural). But this is a thread about Lucifer, not each morning star identified in the bible so I'll not say anymore about that at this time.

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It's all related, since Lucifer was alleged to be satan and the King of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28, and Ezek 28 called him a CHERUB.
Satan wasn't these kings... but the spirit of Satan was in them.

One could speak to Adolf Hitler, addressing the satanic spirit operating in him. In fact, many believe that the final antichrist will be possessed of Satan also.

My point... the prophecies were directed to BOTH human kings and Satan himself.

It seems like people always get into "either or camps". It's both.
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Satan wasn't these kings... but the spirit of Satan was in them.

One could speak to Adolf Hitler, addressing the satanic spirit operating in him. In fact, many believe that the final antichrist will be possessed of Satan also.

My point... the prophecies were directed to BOTH human kings and Satan himself.

It seems like people always get into "either or camps". It's both.
I can agree with THAT!
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i have been hooked on many things but phonics wasnt one of them. Infact i sorta slept when i could in english class.

I hate grammer.
lol ur crazy i like that in a person lol
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