An abuse of authority???? - Page 4

kingdomapostle · #1 07-12-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Do you believe it is MORE wrong to attack a "man of God" then any other random person?

If so how do I know another guy who calls me out publicly is a real "man of God" and doesn't just proclaim himself to be? After all, I didn't agree to become his underling.

The person supported his ministry for years before all of this. Until the status thing, it was someone he had respect for.

Its not wrong to attack anyone, however the Pastor's post was not a personal attack against the Christian's character, but it did correct his behavior.

deltaguitar · #2 07-12-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

True, however coming BACK to the Pastor's page as well as their own status with more profanity, "blasting" their name, the name of their ministry and all their congregation with other profanities...OPENLY calling attention to the matter is clearly (black and white) wrong.

When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.

kingdomapostle · #3 07-12-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.

You are still saying a sinner. This person is SAVED.

deltaguitar · #4 07-12-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

You are still saying a sinner. This person is SAVED.

I don't think they are. What evidence do we have that they are a christian?

This is what I do know.

John 13:34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

kingdomapostle · #5 07-12-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.

If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.

Praxeas · #6 07-12-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.

Everyone should be respected

deltaguitar · #7 07-12-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.

This is typical of some of these pastors being the "facebook" police. There is a reason why this pastor is vocal and well listened to. It is because he is opinionated and says things that at times can be offensive.

I don't necessarily ascribe to this idea that just because a guy pastors a couple hundred folks out in the sticks gives him any authority over anyone. We should respect all people and should respect elders but this man was probably asking for it.

Praxeas · #8 07-12-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

A Pastor notices unholy activity happening on someones fb page. While the individual is NOT a memeber of their church, the person is WELL aquainted with many people that are connected to the Pastor and neighboring churches.

After a moment, the Pastor updates their status message and warns the saints NOT to behave in the manner they saw displayed on the individuals page. In turn, the individual goes off on a tangent, and says that the Pastor is abusing his authority and not being Christ like. They resort to cursing and even publically bashing the Pastor, His ministry, and those that support him so that everyone who is connected with the both of them can clearly see the post. The individual even uses the Pastors entire name and encourages everyone on their page to say whatever they would like about the "abuse" that took place.

Who's right? Did the Pastor abuse their authority? Scriptures would help.

Where here do you say this individual is saved?

kingdomapostle · #9 07-12-2011, 02:54 PM

The first post opened with:
While the individual is NOT a memeber of their church, the person is WELL aquainted with many people that are connected to the Pastor and neighboring churches.

Please pardon the spelling error firstly, and secondly, I wrongly assumed that I was being clear that although the Pastor is NOT their Pastor, the Pastor IS well known by his leaders..etc.

RandyWayne · #10 07-12-2011, 03:14 PM

Here is a question: Did the pastor make his rebuke on HIS own personal page as a status update or did he actually post on the guys profile that he was trying to "correct"?

If it was the former, then the guy who was being "corrected" should have just let the issue go quietly into the night. However if it was on HIS profile (the guy being corrected) -for all his friends and family to see, then I probably would have put the virtual smack down on the pastor as well.