Women Bishop - Page 4

Titus2woman · #31 02-17-2012, 10:32 AM

I dunno Matt... do we really need a scapegoat?

Titus2woman · #32 02-17-2012, 10:43 AM

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There still is a standard in the home however. Society may have changed when it comes to the education of women which I understand... and that's a perfect argument for women preachers. THERE WAS a time when women couldn't preach and teach in the church, but most women at that time were uneducated. That's not the case in this day and age, and I don't see a problem with women preaching.

However, when it comes to the role of the pastor, it is compared to the role of the father in the home.

When we are look for an individual who is qualified to be a Pastor through God's eyes we are looking for someone who rules their house well. Then the reasoning is given if a man can't rule his home how can he take care of the house of God?

My question is, society has changed in regards to women's education, rights, etc, but has God's gender roles changed in the home? Are men still the head of the home? (I believe so). If so shouldn't then men be perferred in positions of leadership in the church? (I believe so).

Ahhh and therein lies the crux... I don't believe that there is a 'house of God' in the same sense that you do or that 'pastors' or 'preachers' are "preferred positions" in the church. I believe that the church (called out believers) gather together, that preachers are simply people who has been given a word from God to be shared with the group and that pastors are shepherds, caretakers, or servants of the people. Those with wisdom and age who have life experience and are able to be spiritual examples and guides through the power of the holy ghost. Man or woman they need for their own homes to be in order so that they are not a distraction to themselves or to thoses who would look to them as an example. As part of that they should not be divorced and remarried as that is always a messy situation and a distraction. Therefore the spouse of one only. I believe that today women can and do fill that rold as completely as men. And God smiles

The Matt · #33 02-17-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I dunno Matt... do we really need a scapegoat?

YES!

houston · #34 02-17-2012, 11:14 AM

The WOMAN was deceived, not the man.

The NAGGING WOMAN caused the man to sin. He got tired of hearing her, so he caved.

That's BIBLE! I just don't know what is culture or edict, so I am somewhere in the middle.

Truthseeker · #35 02-17-2012, 12:38 PM

Must be nice if you don't like scripture that's against your belief to just write it off as customs of tthat day.

Jay · #36 02-17-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Do they accept women bishops/pastors?

According to my parent who were there when these questions were discussed, this issue was mentioned, and all heads swiveled as the men handed the question to Bro. Booker whose church in Rialto was founded and pastored by a lady. While they did not say no, they did not issue a ringing endorsement of the practice. I do not believe that there will be many ladies who will pastor churches in the WPF.

Titus2woman · #37 02-17-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Must be nice if you don't like scripture that's against your belief to just write it off as customs of tthat day.

Yes it's very nice to understand what is history, what is law, what is grace, what is God's love and mercy. There is a great commision, we are to fulfill it. The kingdom is a big place and is spirtually and culturally broader than most of us can imagine. We make our plans and our niches and our comfort zones and God laughs

I'm pretty sure you can find that written somewhere.

The Matt · #38 02-17-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Must be nice if you don't like scripture that's against your belief to just write it off as customs of tthat day.

It's hard to take that scripture as anything but that when in a church full of people being used in the gifts, miracles happen, good humble people with plenty of if not all of the fruits, all under the authority of a woman. But I guess I can be guilty of having a biased view. It cuts me for a flip when people don't take other scriptures that I can see myself as being meant to be taken literal in their way, but I don't try to discourage them in believing that way. I state how I believe, and that's it.

seekerman · #39 02-17-2012, 06:53 PM

What is the problem? Scripture is very very plan concerning bishops and women. Women are NOT to be bishops, bishops are to be HUSBANDS of one wife.

Titus2woman · #40 02-17-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

What is the problem? Scripture is very very plan concerning bishops and women. Women are NOT to be bishops, bishops are to be HUSBANDS of one wife.

Or the wife of one husband (not a polygamist or a divorced and remarried person). Most things addressed to people were addressed to men for ease of language. It is still done today. Please tell me that you do not believe that because I am female I can ignore all of the things that the bible says are applicable to 'man'.