Repentance, Holiness, and the Church

[Michael The Disciple]

The call to repentance and holiness is no doubt reality. There is very little understanding of the love of God and a holiness lifestyle. When one EVEN MENTIONS HOLINESS on this forum they are AUTOMATICALLY considered to be a "standards" pusher".

I have always opposed the shallow type teaching that thinks to shave, take off a watch, and walk around in a suit and tie makes one holy. Yet the Spirit of Jesus requires FAR MORE than an outward conformity to a few little dress codes.

I have heard so many times the little cliche "we will be surprised to see everyone that will be in Heaven".

Jesus said FEW will enter into life. Why?

Because they will not do his will. They will not keep his commandments and do the things that are pleasing in his sight. Matter of fact very many will fall away from Christ long before his coming. Since they have little regard or passionate love for the word of God he will not manifest himself to them. At least not in a large measure so they will get bored and walk away. It happens all the time.

Jesus is our bridegroom. He loves us. He wants our love to be fervent for him as his is for us. The first and great command "Love the Lord your God with ALL you heart, soul, mind, and strength says volumes.

Todays teaching of unconditional love has perverted the atmosphere for teaching Biblical truth.

Yet lovers of Jesus, those who are very passionate for a close walk with him will WANT to hear a deeper word. They will hunger and thirst for righteousness.

Peace and love.

[houston]

Muslims have a great relationship with Christ? O.o

[Truthseeker]

I hope Price can understand some not taking him serious as much as he has flippidy flopped in the past.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by JamDat

I'd like to see this quote and if it passes the test of the bible.

No problem. The Qur'an plainly states that if you are not following Christ's example, you are not a good Muslim. I've made this my last post of the evening, so I can find it easy tomorrow. I'll have it for you (with some minor pain tonight) if WII doesn't beat me to it.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by houston

Muslims have a great relationship with Christ? O.o

Ha, ok, you caught me with a broad brush, too, lol.
Muslims are people, just like us.
I can say from experience that even
secular Muslims seem much more in tune
with "Love your neighbor," which I consider to be
one of Christ's Names.

It is hard to describe absent the experience,
you don't find mid easterners yakking about
their religion, so much as practicing it-
-is the best way I can put it, and I apologize for
what is surely unseemly frankness here.

If I was on the street, homeless,
I would rather it be in a Muslim neighborhood,
and you should look at my profile pic to get some
idea of what a statement that is.

I do not say this lightly, or with much pride.
I pity the homeless Muslim in most American neighborhoods.
This is very sad to me, a travesty.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

An awfully wide brush there; I'd like to pin that down a little, if I may-
-which Muslims are lost, again? The Muslims I know have a great
relationship with Christ, imo; enviable, even.
Apparently you are aware of some who do not?
If they do not pass the test of Christ, then they do not pass the test of "Muslim," either-
-I can quote you this from the Qur'an, if you like.

Nonsense!

They don't believe he is the Son of God or in the reality of the physical resurrection. A simple reading of 1 John shows no only Islamists to fall short of saving faith in Christ, but exposes the anti christ (satanic) origin of their religion.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Nonsense!

They don't believe he is the Son of God or in the reality of the physical resurrection. A simple reading of 1 John shows no only Islamists to fall short of saving faith in Christ, but exposes the anti christ (satanic) origin of their religion.

A religion designed by satan to drag more into hell I might add.

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ha, ok, you caught me with a broad brush, too, lol.
Muslims are people, just like us.
I can say from experience that even
secular Muslims seem much more in tune
with "Love your neighbor," which I consider to be
one of Christ's Names.

It is hard to describe absent the experience,
you don't find mid easterners yakking about
their religion, so much as practicing it-
-is the best way I can put it, and I apologize for
what is surely unseemly frankness here.

If I was on the street, homeless,
I would rather it be in a Muslim neighborhood,
and you should look at my profile pic to get some
idea of what a statement that is.

I do not say this lightly, or with much pride.
I pity the homeless Muslim in most American neighborhoods.
This is very sad to me, a travesty.

It doesn't matter how good of a person you or they are. If you're not born again you're not saved.

[bbyrd009]

Wadr, than can be translated "change your mind completely"
as easily as "born again." "Born again" is a catchphrase for you,
and a largely meaningless one even in our culture, I might add-
-if you were to ask that Chris Mindfreak magician guy, he would
surely claim to be "born again." I have yet to meet a Muslim magician, lol.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Nonsense!
They don't believe he is the Son of God or in the reality of the physical resurrection. A simple reading of 1 John shows no only Islamists to fall short of saving faith in Christ, but exposes the anti christ (satanic) origin of their religion.

How do you know? Allowing for the differences in culture, I see the exact same reflection from Christ, who referred to Himself as "Son of Man" (why do you suppose the Son of God would refer to Himself as the Son of Man, hmm), and our 1/3 (mass) debates, which might better reflect to us as Oneness/Catholicism debates, in their eyes. The Qur'an plainly states, in many places, that one who does not believe in the resurrection, exact same words, is deceived, and going to hell--I'll provide a quote for that also.
Please at least suspect that Fox news is lying to you, ok? It is far and away the most "popular" news we have--I expect this from rednecks, or the KKK, but you are marginally "Christians."
If you are looking for monsters, you are going to find monsters.
I find no condemnation in I John, so you will have to provide a quote, sorry.

To be fair, I deal with mostly with those in more upscale, resort venues,
as that is where my business takes me; there are surely..."bad Muslim" neighborhoods where I would be shot on sight, I guess, but prolly less quickly than if I were to appear in Compton, or Watts; if one can consider them "bad Christian" neighborhoods.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

A religion designed by satan to drag more into hell I might add.

Dordt, this is just spew. You have no basis other than
Fox news, et al, from which to post this. At the end of
the day, all religions, Christianity especially, are
man's earnest attempt to quantify and "administer" God,
Who will not be quantified or administered.
You did not provide a single quote for this,
because you could not. You will now slink away
and avoid posting in this thread.