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06-15-2012, 10:56 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
its thes etype of people who want men to lust after them. sexy doesnt need to be in the work place. its needs to be kept in the bedroom. I like cold weather, but i also like the fact the cold forces people to cover up.
i walked in the park the other day with my 2 daughters. and lo and behold to 2 girls i say between 18-21 in a skimpy 2 peice swimsuit, doing chalk art on the side walk both with their butt's stuck up in the air so everyone could see it....
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06-15-2012, 11:00 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
It's evident that some women who dress like this are looking for attention. Why? They feel alone inside. Some of these women are "looking for love" hoping to find some form of attention that will satisfy. She's a prime candidate to introduce to Jesus.
We must be wise. Sometimes we have to take a stand... sometimes we have to stand down and see what might be going on in the spirit with the people we know and work with.
What might Jesus have done? That's open to debate. But my point is... don't forget Christ and your calling in these situations.
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06-15-2012, 11:12 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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It's evident that some women who dress like this are looking for attention. Why? They feel alone inside. Some of these women are "looking for love" hoping to find some form of attention that will satisfy. She's a prime candidate to introduce to Jesus.
We must be wise. Sometimes we have to take a stand... sometimes we have to stand down and see what might be going on in the spirit with the people we know and work with.
What might Jesus have done? That's open to debate. But my point is... don't forget Christ and your calling in these situations.
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Best post on this thread.
Personally, unless you are the employER and in a position to hold an employee accountable, I would let it go and not say a single word.
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06-15-2012, 11:04 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
Are we gasping at this woman's behavior in condemnation of her attire... or are we thinking about what all of this means with regards to her soul? I would see it as a cry for help. She's trying to get attention... but it's Christ's attention that she is truly hungry for.
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06-15-2012, 11:09 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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Are we gasping at this woman's behavior in condemnation of her attire... or are we thinking about what all of this means with regards to her soul? I would see it as a cry for help. She's trying to get attention... but it's Christ's attention that she is truly hungry for.
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I disagree...she's hungry for attention all right... but she aint no more hungry for Christ than I am for a steaming bowl of brussel sprouts.
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06-15-2012, 11:10 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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I disagree...she's hungry for attention all right... but she aint no more hungry for Christ than I am for a steaming bowl of brussel sprouts.
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You are right, but he is too.
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06-15-2012, 11:17 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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I disagree...she's hungry for attention all right... but she aint no more hungry for Christ than I am for a steaming bowl of brussel sprouts.
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I don't know... Jesus saw a Samaritan woman at a well once. She had been married five times and was currently shacking up with a guy she wasn't married to. Jesus spoke to her. Jesus revealed a spiritual thirst in her. She had spent her life looking to quench her thirst for love in men... and she couldn't find it. He revealed that her answer was "living water". Then he revealed his identity to her and she immediately went to her home town and witnessed to everyone about him. Those she spoke to came to the well to see Jesus... and many believed.
Yep... the evangelist to that small town was a woman who had been married five times and was currently shacked up with a guy. I don't know what happened to her. I pray they eventually married and found happiness in Christ.
God doesn't see things like we see them. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying be open enough to see people as Jesus might see them. Sometimes we overreact in a righteously indignant tirade and alienate a lot of people from Christ because they see us as "beating up on" a lady over what she chose to wear. While they might agree that it was inappropriate... they're more concerned with how she was treated as a person. So... let's remember to behave like Jesus in moments like these. That's all I'm saying.
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06-15-2012, 11:27 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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I don't know... Jesus saw a Samaritan woman at a well once. She had been married five times and was currently shacking up with a guy she wasn't married to. Jesus spoke to her. Jesus revealed a spiritual thirst in her. She had spent her life looking to quench her thirst for love in men... and she couldn't find it. He revealed that her answer was "living water". Then he revealed his identity to her and she immediately went to her home town and witnessed to everyone about him. Those she spoke to came to the well to see Jesus... and many believed.
Yep... the evangelist to that small town was a woman who had been married five times and was currently shacked up with a guy. I don't know what happened to her. I pray they eventually married and found happiness in Christ.
God doesn't see things like we see them. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying be open enough to see people as Jesus might see them. Sometimes we overreact in a righteously indignant tirade and alienate a lot of people from Christ because they see us as "beating up on" a lady over what she chose to wear. While they might agree that it was inappropriate... they're more concerned with how she was treated as a person. So... let's remember to behave like Jesus in moments like these. That's all I'm saying.
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She was thirsty yes... I didn't disagree with that part... but not for Christ... and the woman at the well wasn't either... she was searching absolutely for something to fill the God shaped hole in her life... but there is nothing in that Scripture to indicate that she every realized that Christ would fill the thirst. She was thirsty, but nothing indicated thirsty for Christ.
Furthermore, you say she evangelized.... there is nothing in the Scriptures that says she ever accepted Christ, repented of her sins, or came to faith in Christ..... as far as we know, she died in her sins...... too many have made too many assumptions about this girl.
In regards to the gal in my office...she's thirsty, but not for Christ. She would have to realize her need for Christ first, to become thirsty for Christ.... right now, she's only thirsty.
Just like me... I was longing for something in my life... however, I had to realize my longing was for Christ, before my longing could be a longing for Christ.
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06-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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She was thirsty yes... I didn't disagree with that part... but not for Christ... and the woman at the well wasn't either... she was searching absolutely for something to fill the God shaped hole in her life... but there is nothing in that Scripture to indicate that she every realized that Christ would fill the thirst. She was thirsty, but nothing indicated thirsty for Christ.
Furthermore, you say she evangelized.... there is nothing in the Scriptures that says she ever accepted Christ, repented of her sins, or came to faith in Christ..... as far as we know, she died in her sins...... too many have made too many assumptions about this girl.
In regards to the gal in my office...she's thirsty, but not for Christ. She would have to realize her need for Christ first, to become thirsty for Christ.... right now, she's only thirsty.
Just like me... I was longing for something in my life... however, I had to realize my longing was for Christ, before my longing could be a longing for Christ.
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Exactly his point!
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06-15-2012, 12:08 PM
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Re: So Sexy Isn't Offensive?
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She was thirsty yes... I didn't disagree with that part... but not for Christ... and the woman at the well wasn't either... she was searching absolutely for something to fill the God shaped hole in her life... but there is nothing in that Scripture to indicate that she every realized that Christ would fill the thirst. She was thirsty, but nothing indicated thirsty for Christ.
Furthermore, you say she evangelized.... there is nothing in the Scriptures that says she ever accepted Christ, repented of her sins, or came to faith in Christ..... as far as we know, she died in her sins...... too many have made too many assumptions about this girl.
In regards to the gal in my office...she's thirsty, but not for Christ. She would have to realize her need for Christ first, to become thirsty for Christ.... right now, she's only thirsty.
Just like me... I was longing for something in my life... however, I had to realize my longing was for Christ, before my longing could be a longing for Christ.
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Bro... Jesus is the answer to... everything. Every human being has a God shaped hole in their lives... and they try to fill it with alcohol, sex, drugs, hobbies, religion, and entertainment.
I don't know this woman's heart. I am also of the conviction that you might not either. I'm only saying... be Jesus to her. It's the only way to find out. If a woman like this isn't on your prayer list... she should be. If you're not trying to be a friend to a woman like this... you should be.
As for the woman at the well... the Scriptures say...
John 4:1-42 (ESV)
Jesus and the Woman of Samaria
4 Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John 2 (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples), 3 he left Judea and departed again for Galilee. 4 And he had to pass through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town of Samaria called Sychar, near the field that Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob's well was there; so Jesus, wearied as he was from his journey, was sitting beside the well. It was about the sixth hour.
7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.” 8 (For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” ( For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” 11 The woman said to him, “Sir, you have nothing to draw water with, and the well is deep. Where do you get that living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob? He gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did his sons and his livestock.” 13 Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” 15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water, so that I will not be thirsty or have to come here to draw water.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.” 17 The woman answered him, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You are right in saying, ‘I have no husband’; 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one you now have is not your husband. What you have said is true.” 19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” 21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” 26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”
27 Just then his disciples came back. They marveled that he was talking with a woman, but no one said, “What do you seek?” or, “Why are you talking with her?” 28 So the woman left her water jar and went away into town and said to the people, 29 “Come, see a man who told me all that I ever did. Can this be the Christ?” 30 They went out of the town and were coming to him.
31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.” 32 But he said to them, “I have food to eat that you do not know about.” 33 So the disciples said to one another, “Has anyone brought him something to eat?” 34 Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work. 35 Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, then comes the harvest’? Look, I tell you, lift up your eyes, and see that the fields are white for harvest. 36 Already the one who reaps is receiving wages and gathering fruit for eternal life, so that sower and reaper may rejoice together. 37 For here the saying holds true, ‘One sows and another reaps.’ 38 I sent you to reap that for which you did not labor. Others have labored, and you have entered into their labor.”
39 Many Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman's testimony, “He told me all that I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they asked him to stay with them, and he stayed there two days. 41 And many more believed because of his word. 42 They said to the woman, “It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is indeed the Savior of the world.” Praise God...
I believe you do error knowing not the Scriptures, nor the power of God. Jesus asked her for water and she saw a problem because of their social differences. Jesus then told her that if she knew who he was, she'd ask him for water. Jesus saw the thirst...she just didn't know who he was. Jesus described living water... and she asked for it. But first... Jesus had to address her circumstance to humble her before God... Jesus asked for her to bring her husband. She said she had no husband, hoping to end that subject. Jesus then revealed to her that he knew her circumstance; she'd been married five times and was currently living with a man she wasn't married to. She perceived in that instant that Jesus was a prophet. She then resorted to an old tired defense tactic... a religious debate. She brought up the differences between the Jews and the Samaritans concerning the place to worship. This expressed her knowledge and interest in a spiritual matter that had obviously troubled her spiritually. Jesus explains that the day is coming when the Father will desire his own to worship him in spirit and in truth. She then reflects at how great that would be and it draws her mind to the prophecies concerning the Messiah and how he will teach both Jew and Samaritan all things. Then Jesus reveals his identity to her, " I who speak to you am he."
Christ's disciples return and the woman leaves and returns to down and tells all that she knows about Jesus. Then many from the town started coming to him. Jesus tells the disciples how the fields are white for harvest (they are spiritually ripe). Many believe in Jesus because of this woman's testimony. They asked Jesus to stay with them and he stayed two more days. During that time many more believed because of Christ's own words and professed that they then knew that Jesus was indeed the Saviour of the world.
I present to you that your claim that she wasn't hungry for God, the claim that she didn't believe in him, the claim that she didn't spread the word regarding who he was to the salvation of others... are unfounded and dismissed by the Scriptures themselves.
The term "repent" is "metanoeo" (Grk.). It is a compound word composed of the words "meta" meaning "afterward" and "noeo" meaning "understanding". Essentially it is an "after-understanding", a "change of mind". Did her mind not change after that conversation? I contend that it did... therefore she was "repentant".
Now... what troubles me is how so many want to "beat up" these precious believers in Scriptures because they don't "fit the mold" of what we'd call good "moral people". This Phariseeical perspective is disturbing because not only do we discount the significance of those who don't fit our mold in Scripture... but we carry that over into our daily lives, thereby often discounting the value and significance of those whom we pass judgment upon because they too don't fit the mold.
Bro... the woman at the well was a shack up honey who had been through five failed marriages. She was looking for love. And when she met Jesus and it was revealed to her who he was... she didn't waste any time... she went and told an entire town about him and many believed and came to Christ. After Christ stayed two whole days with them... many more believed because of Christ's own words. That shack up honey wasn't trash to be discarded and questioned... she was a key to revival in that town. The disciples didn't go and tell them about Jesus... they were too busy questioning the entire conversation... but a shack up honey did . lol
I love how God always proves that what we call trash is His treasure.
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