The 2012 Democratic National Convention

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by tstew

I can pay for the services that I received (even though it was exorbitant and has been a struggle), but it was eye opening for me. If they charge me $20,000 for one night, what about the other people who are dealing with issues more serious and chronic than mine. I am willing to entertain the notion that serious reform of some kind is needed.

Tort reform and healthcare spending caps would go a long way toward fixing this problem. We need both, though; caps alone would only serve to cripple hospitals and doctors who still have to fork out loads of cash on liability/malpractice insurance.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Tort reform and healthcare spending caps would go a long way toward fixing this problem. We need both, though; caps alone would only serve to cripple hospitals and doctors who still have to fork out loads of cash on liability/malpractice insurance.

BT

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by tstew

I can pay for the services that I received (even though it was exorbitant and has been a struggle), but it was eye opening for me. If they charge me $20,000 for one night, what about the other people who are dealing with issues more serious and chronic than mine. I am willing to entertain the notion that serious reform of some kind is needed.

What the affordable healthcare act does not address is healthcare 'reform' in itself.

What we got is a bill that addresses insurance reform...to put into the insurance companies more money mandated by Congress for their constituents to pay. There is a whole host of other things in that bill that has nothing to do with healthcare at all.

If this healthcare 'reform' was so grand, why did Congress not mandate it for themselves?

The answer is because they know what's in it.

[BeenThinkin]

I confess, I am an avid FOX News watcher! But I'm really disappointed at some of the Fox correspondents and news people tonight, in their failure to call to task some of the lies and outrageous ramblings of some of the demented democrats that they have interviewed. Why don't they stand up to these liberal losers and not let them get by with their garbage?

BT

[CC1]

Originally Posted by tstew

I can pay for the services that I received (even though it was exorbitant and has been a struggle), but it was eye opening for me. If they charge me $20,000 for one night, what about the other people who are dealing with issues more serious and chronic than mine. I am willing to entertain the notion that serious reform of some kind is needed.

BeefStew,

I agree that medical costs are exhorbinant but I don't think the solution is the Government taking it over. One look at how Medicare and the VA Hospital system is run ought to scare anybody who does think it is a good idea.

We have to come up with some way to stimulate competition between hospitals and care providers.

[CC1]

I can't believe PO isn't on here commenting on the candidate she is going to help re-elect!

[BeenThinkin]

$16 Trillion happening during the DNC? Who do we owe that money to? What I just read is scary. Here's part of the story of our debt, and this is really alarming!

"Just under $5 trillion of the national debt is owed to the Social Security Trust Fund and federal pension systems. A little more than $11 trillion is owed to foreign and domestic investors and the Federal Reserve, which buys up treasuries in order to drag down interest rates through quantitative easing."

Seems like thieves have had their way with our SS Lock Box and the federal pensions! And who authorizes the Federal Reserve to buy up treasuries? Where does the Federal Reserve get it's money? Just print it I guess!

BT

[AreYouReady?]

They do just print it, and loan it back to the american people for interest. Nobody tells the FR what to do. They are a private entity.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Wait ? What? He has increased student loans because you should be able to go to school without a mountain of debt...

What did I miss?

Thats it!

If Obama takes the position that borrowed money isn't really debt, then he can say that the 16+ Trillion dollar national debt isn't really that big. He can say he did indeed cut the debt in half by saying loans and borrowed money don't really count. Brilliant!

:P

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by tstew

I can pay for the services that I received (even though it was exorbitant and has been a struggle), but it was eye opening for me. If they charge me $20,000 for one night, what about the other people who are dealing with issues more serious and chronic than mine. I am willing to entertain the notion that serious reform of some kind is needed.

I really doubt anyone rejects the idea that reform is needed.

Reform and the god awful monstrosity called Obamacare are two vastly different things.

And NO ONE goes broke over medical bills. Hospitals can't steal your money. They can't garnish your wages to my knowledge. They are always willing to set up payments, and even if you can't make them...all they can do is turn you over to a collections agency who in turn cannot do anythign but hit your credit score.

I grew up in a single parent home with little money. I remember my mother making payments to the hospital of $5-$10 a month because that was all she could afford. They never turned her in. They never put her in jail. They never emptied her bank account or pushed her into bankruptcy.

No one goes broke over medical bills. It is a talking point.