Friends church droppped "standards"

[BeenThinkin]

I've got standards for my wife, (has nothing to do with God or the church), but boy I have a problem get her to abide by them. Some of them have to do with dress,..... no, no, no, not long dresses!

Thought about "disfellowshipping her," but changed my mind! After 50 years I wouldn't find another one like her..... so I'm gonna do everything I can to keep her and celebrate 51 years soon! She..... ROCKS!

Been Thinkin

[Jay]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Right. They just will not hire you. Pentecostals who want to work there cannot because the females will not wear a pant's uniform.

I'm thinking specifically about the case where the woman sued McDonalds because she would not wear pants.

However, isn't it the same concept in reverse in some churches if a woman will not wear a dress? Can you sue a church for discrimination in treatment if a female gets reprimanded by the pastor if she comes to church in slack suits, trims her hair and wears makeup and jewelry? Wouldn't it be true that if one can sue a corporation for discrimination, then one can sue a church because they become incorporated when they apply for and obtain a 501 c 3 tax-exempt status?

Not that it would be the Christian thing to sue a church for that unless they caused gross defamation of your character to where your children even suffer for that defamation.

AYR, the problem with that analogy is that they hired her knowing and agreeing that she would not be required to wear the slacks as long as she wore a black skirt. McDonalds was the one who broke the contract, which opened them up to a lawsuit of religious discrimination. Had they just said that she was not what they were looking for (no other explanation needed or given) there would not have been a problem. This was not the case.

People who wish to hold a lesser standard than the church are not forbidden from attending as long as they are not stirring up strife within the congregation. They will just not be used for anything other than the general maintenance of the church (church cleanings, fundraisers, etc.)

[houston]

Originally Posted by "Jay

People who wish to hold a lesser standard than the church are not forbidden from attending as long as they are not stirring up strife within the congregation. They will just not be used for anything other than the general maintenance of the church (church cleanings, fundraisers, etc.)

Yeah. Sounds about right.

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by Jay

They will just not be used for anything other than the general maintenance of the church (church cleanings, fundraisers, etc.)

That just sounds terrible. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by UltimateUltraConservative

That just sounds terrible. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I thought about it, and would have to say that many of those who are not lining up are likely to simply be attending with little commitment anyway (not true in all cases). And often it is the actual church members who do the fundraising and church cleanings anyway, so there would be little point to my above post. Please feel free to disregard it. It was a post made in error, though done with careful thinking (not all thoughts, no matter how carefully considered are accurate).

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by Jay

I thought about it, and would have to say that many of those who are not lining up are likely to simply be attending with little commitment anyway (not true in all cases). And often it is the actual church members who do the fundraising and church cleanings anyway, so there would be little point to my above post. Please feel free to disregard it. It was a post made in error, though done with careful thinking (not all thoughts, no matter how carefully considered are accurate).

Unfortunately...Causes me problems all the time.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Jay

I thought about it, and would have to say that many of those who are not lining up are likely to simply be attending with little commitment anyway (not true in all cases). And often it is the actual church members who do the fundraising and church cleanings anyway, so there would be little point to my above post. Please feel free to disregard it. It was a post made in error, though done with careful thinking (not all thoughts, no matter how carefully considered are accurate).

Lining up to... what Jay?

Your comments did look/sound bad but...I think you spoke more truth than you realize.

Our culture relies too much on looks and appearance. Look at what the church would be missing out on spiritually if John the Baptist walked into the church wearing animal skins and he was 'used' in the capacity of general maintenance because he did not look like his 'suit and tie' pentecostal counter parts.

[UltimateUltraConservative]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Lining up to... what Jay?

Your comments did look/sound bad but...I think you spoke more truth than you realize.

Our culture relies too much on looks and appearance. Look at what the church would be missing out on spiritually if John the Baptist walked into the church wearing animal skins and he was 'used' in the capacity of general maintenance because he did not look like his 'suit and tie' pentecostal counter parts.

Of course! But DID John the Baptist walk into an actual church? I'm not recalling that he did...he was out in nature, as most everyone else at that time, if I remember right. Our culture has changed and become what it is, so of course our way of clothing ourselves and the things we eat have changed as well. They responded to what they knew. Hmm...I think I'm saying something now that I'll need to chew on later...

[AreYouReady?]

Quite true. However if that is the case, then how come when it comes to culture and women's dress, it is preached that God's Word never changes?

[AreYouReady?]

Should a man who is full of the Holy Ghost be 'waiting tables' because he doesn't line up to man's dress rules?