Catholicism & Women

[houston]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Congratulations Scott! You are now God.

If a church with errors is not Christian there are more that are out then you think... Maybe even your own.

Never thought I'd wind up defending Catholics but the arrogance around here is a huge challenge.

What is Christian about them?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by houston

What is Christian about them?

Here, I'll let them tell you themselves and save a ream of typeface.

http://www.catholicbridge.com/cathol..._christian.php

[houston]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Here, I'll let them tell you themselves and save a ream of typeface.

http://www.catholicbridge.com/cathol..._christian.php

I read that. Guess you didn't. LOL

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by houston

I read that. Guess you didn't. LOL

Yeah shocking isnt it? She compares this to Pentecostals. I have never met ANY brand of Pentecostals so dogmatic as this. Everyone is damned to Hell EXCEPT those of the Catholic Church.

[Michael The Disciple]

I do not doubt for one minute that if there had been Apostolic Pentecostal preachers during the dark ages and the crusades they would have committed murders aplenty, as if those who rape young boys today are any better.

You know for sure? And yet history gives us not even one case of a Oneness Pentecostal killing someone of another belief over their doctrine.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Congratulations Scott! You are now God.

If a church with errors is not Christian there are more that are out then you think... Maybe even your own.

Never thought I'd wind up defending Catholics but the arrogance around here is a huge challenge.

Well, considering that for centuries, much of the church world has been divided into Catholics vs. Protestants, it seems understandable. Catholicism is rife with false doctrine, and historically speaking, much (if not most) of the violence attributed to Christendom as a whole can really be laid at the feet of the RCC.

Some people (like Titus2woman ) have a knee jerk reaction and defend the "underdog" in every conversation; I get that, but really--step back and look at the church you are defending. From a historical standpoint, it is a despicable entity. The modern Catholic is worth examining, as the Church and its processes have been refined to some extent by the moors of society and culture, but the historical RCC? Not a thing of beauty in any way, shape or form.

I do see how the trappings of deep tradition and worship can be refreshing and even soothing in our chaotic world, and I feel there are parts of the RCC that have value to the modern Christian. However, I do not for a second forget my history. I didn't post this thread under some illusion of grandeur in regard to the RCC. If any church represents wickedness, violence, abuse of power, and corruption over the course of time, it is the Catholic church. Huguenots, anyone?

The discussions on the AFF don't need to be politically correct and 100% inoffensive to every possible reader. Let people say what they think; it really is okay.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

You know for sure? And yet history gives us not even one case of a Oneness Pentecostal killing someone of another belief over their doctrine.

The damning of other religions by other religions is as old as time. Pentecostal history is what, a hundred years old? That the church was in apostasy until their movement is a whole lot of making God very small. The truth is the Catholic (or Universal) church WAS the Christian church on earth for hundreds of years, for good or bad.

I don't intend to defend something I don't belong to or believe in... It just makes me sad and sick how Christians are so determined to despise one another. Again, I see good things and bad things and horrible things in all religious systems but that does not mean that they are not Christians, it simply means they are human and capable of the sin that is the very cause of need of a Savior.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

The damning of other religions by other religions is as old as time. Pentecostal history is what, a hundred years old? That the church was in apostasy until their movement is a whole lot of making God very small. The truth is the Catholic (or Universal) church WAS the Christian church on earth for hundreds of years, for good or bad.

I don't intend to defend something I don't belong to or believe in... It just makes me sad and sick how Christians are so determined to despise one another. Again, I see good things and bad things and horrible things in all religious systems but that does not mean that they are not Christians, it simply means they are human and capable of the sin that is the very cause of need of a Savior.

There are good, bad and horrible things in every religious system because there are people in every religious system. However, the doctrines and espoused practices inherent to some religions are bad and even horrible in and of themselves. It's one thing for immoral or corrupt anomalies to arise within a denomination; it's another thing for corruption to be comprised of the leadership of the whole organization and for that corruption to be legalized and spread throughout all the daughter churches in the form of local leadership (oppression?).

There is no comparison, over the course of history, between the actions of the RCC and Protestant denominations. To many denominations, the RCC represents the corruption and abuse of power that they rejected and left. Although corruption and abuses of power arise in other denominations, they seem to be equally rejected and squelched most of the time.

It would be so nice if this thread could stay on topic....

[Titus2woman]

Edited in the interest of honoring Ms Bs request to be on topic.

But I will say that I must see Oneness Pentecostalism as much more corrupt in a widespread way than you do if you do not think any Protestant denomination has widespread internal corruption at every level.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Edited in the interest of honoring Ms Bs request to be on topic.

Thanks, but now I'm dying to know what you edited out.