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Old 06-06-2007, 05:49 PM
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The way I see it is what's on the current resolution. I imagine there are men who would like to go live or do away with the ban altogether. There's no way to stop one man or a group of men from trying . . . but there is a way to keep them from succeeding . . .

It's all about voting.

Again, most of the ministers I've spoken with are for ads, but completely against the rest. I don't see how anything besides ads could pass.

I agree with most of what you said... On a personal note: Are you a licensed minister and are you going to take the stand in your vote of 'Ad Only'? And what percentage of ministers do you think would stand for an 'Ad Only' vote?

Again, if they could convince me that was all I could be tempted.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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Did Bro. Mooney mention that David didn't have a sword of his own so he took Goliath's sword and slew him with it?
I'm sure he, as all the rest of us, knows that. But, alas, it had nothing to do with his sermon last night. Nothing remotely pertaining to it.

I reiterate, it was a GREAT message.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:57 PM
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I'm sure he, as all the rest of us, knows that. But, alas, it had nothing to do with his sermon last night. Nothing remotely pertaining to it.

I reiterate, it was a GREAT message.
I was mostly just trying to poke at yah for the fun of it......

I really do love Bro. Mooney's preaching. He's in the top 5 of my favorite preachers.

A little point about the enemy being killed with his on weapon because God allowed it, might have been a good point to add though........
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I agree with most of what you said... On a personal note: Are you a licensed minister and are you going to take the stand in your vote of 'Ad Only'? And what percentage of ministers do you think would stand for an 'Ad Only' vote?

Again, if they could convince me that was all I could be tempted.
Not a licensed minister.

My father and brother are. They're both staunchly for ads, but not for anything else. I'm the moderate/liberal blacksheep of the family. *grin*

To be honest, if I was licensed, I'd be for HQ completely removing the ban (on both ads and broadcasts) to make it an individual church decision. (Since local UPC churches are supposed to be autonomous anyway.)

I don't know what the % of those "for ads but not for anything else" would be.

But you know, it could be that within a couple years of ads being passed that someone puts out a resolution asking for broadcasts also.

The only way to stop a resolution is to vote against it. As many times as it comes up.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:58 PM
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Put another log on the fire . . .

Great message by Bro. Mooney.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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Okay, folks... I've been in my service all evening and am wondering how the camp went tonight? Someone who is there needs to tell me how the service went.... please?

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Old 06-07-2007, 02:36 PM
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I don't doubt he's a great man.

I know he's against the use of television for any reason.

For that reason, his being a GS is scary.
The problem is not in what you know, or think you know. The problem is in what you don't know. And you don't know the bedrock principles on which he has built his present stance on the topic. The only thing you can refute his reasoning with is plain old stubborness.

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A little point about the enemy being killed with his oWn weapon because God allowed it, might have been a good point to add though
If this is how you choose to see it, then as soon as you see the broadcast television industry laying stunned flat on its back, you'll know the moment is right to exercise David's active faith and strike the fatal blow.
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