This Makes #2 on the List, REALLY???

[shazeep]

well, i wouldn't be trying that, but i'm not sure it's fair to say that it has been specially singled out to stand above any other sin? i tried this once, and found precious few verses on the matter, actually. An "abomination," yes--but who really even grasps the term? i doubt our current definition is adequate. Isn't cooking a kid goat in its mother's milk an abomination? i mostly get 'against nature' from the term, for some reason; i doubt the sin is any less forgiven.

however, @ 'topics unclear,' i am kind of getting you, as Scripture seems to (purposefully, imo) present conundrums in many cases, ya.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, i wouldn't be trying that, but i'm not sure it's fair to say that it has been specially singled out to stand above any other sin? i tried this once, and found precious few verses on the matter, actually. An "abomination," yes--but who really even grasps the term? i doubt our current definition is adequate. Isn't cooking a kid goat in its mother's milk an abomination? i mostly get 'against nature' from the term, for some reason; i doubt the sin is any less forgiven.

however, @ 'topics unclear,' i am kind of getting you, as Scripture seems to (purposefully, imo) present conundrums in many cases, ya.

Myself, I would not base any of my morality solely on the old testament laws. There are far to many that have absolutely nothing to do with anything moral or ethical. While homosexuality is condemned in the old testament, so are many other things we have absolutely no problem with. However, the problem with homosexuality is that the new testament quite clearly condemns those kinds of acts as well.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Passing the buck to God when the bible speaks more clearly on homesexuality than on almost any other topic is wrong. Your God's messenger, tell others what God has said. Tell them to follow Christ AND to turn away from their sins. That's what we are called to do. We don't have to be beligerent about it. We don't have to shout you are going to hell over and over again. But we do need to be truthful and honest about what the good book says, especially about the things its crystal clear on.

He knew that. The important thing was, he attended church, something all of us who sin should do.

Preach against sin, yes. Judge one another for sinning, no.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Sasha

He knew that. The important thing was, he attended church, something all of us who sin should do.

Preach against sin, yes. Judge one another for sinning, no.

Then give pedophiles the same benefit. Or do you only refrain from judging others on sins that don't bother you very much?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Then give pedophiles the same benefit. Or do you only refrain from judging others on sins that don't bother you very much?

I would hardly compare a pedophile to a gay person. Not sure why you would.

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree that it seems out of place, but the list doesn't seem to be ordered logically anyway. As for whether it belongs on the list at all--if it's a doctrinal view rooted in scripture, related to a person's salvation or Christianity, then it belongs on the list. (From the perspective of the list maker, at least.) Most Christians aren't looking at this as a political issue; they are looking at it as a sin issue. Views on homosexuality and same-sex marriage certainly aren't on par with one's feelings regarding Obamacare, which is almost purely political in nature.

Well said!

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by houston

I'd like to see Christians working on their fourth marriage rallying against divorce.

LOL.

I'd like to know how one can make a moral comparison of failed social relationships with homosexual activity.

There are some exceptions, but obviously someone working on their fourth marriage has interpersonal issues that go far beyond sexual activity!

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Then give pedophiles the same benefit. Or do you only refrain from judging others on sins that don't bother you very much?

Originally Posted by Sasha

I would hardly compare a pedophile to a gay person. Not sure why you would.

Hypocrite. You teach judge the sin, not the sinner. Why do you insist on ignoring your principle and judging pedophiles?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Hypocrite. You teach judge the sin, not the sinner. Why do you insist on ignoring your principle and judging pedophiles?

Who said I was judging pedophiles? I never did. Did you see a different post than what I posted? Did you miss the point of this thread?

[shazeep]

ah, no--the frog has a point there. sin is sin. and btw, pedophilia, once common and even accepted, is way on the decline; just more reported now.

interesting to me that it is those Christians on their 4th marriage that in a large part make homosexuals (or at least make them feel more justified).