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Old 11-07-2014, 06:43 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star

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The problem is not the past it is the present. Any minister marrying a brand new convert is not very wise. God surely can and will forgive her past. We all become new creatures with no past. Wisdom would tell any minister to wait and see some tract record.
Yes its a wisdom issue.
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:46 PM
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The problem is not the past it is the present. Any minister marrying a brand new convert is not very wise. God surely can and will forgive her past. We all become new creatures with no past. Wisdom would tell any minister to wait and see some tract record.
This is the situation in a nutshell. Good post.
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The problem is not the past it is the present. Any minister marrying a brand new convert is not very wise. God surely can and will forgive her past. We all become new creatures with no past. Wisdom would tell any minister to wait and see some tract record.
Wisdom is sorely lacking in my opinion, I agree with you, Steve.
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:21 PM
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:25 PM
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Yes bro., but all this stuff is in confidentiality. This thread is trashing a soul that has repented. We are no different than the Pharisee Simon in the passage I presented.

I felt the Holy Ghost smite me with sorrow as I posted that.
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:42 PM
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Yes bro., but all this stuff is in confidentiality. This thread is trashing a soul that has repented. We are no different than the Pharisee Simon in the passage I presented.

I felt the Holy Ghost smite me with sorrow as I posted that.
If she is forgiven her past is gone. Baptism remits all sins. But evidently no confidentiality is involved since they made it public.
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:55 PM
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If she is forgiven her past is gone. Baptism remits all sins. But evidently no confidentiality is involved since they made it public.
This thread reminds me of a testimony from Christ Gospel Church. About 1979 we met a young woman from that group. She told us she had been a stripper before.

She got to seeking "God" but not through Jesus rather through Buddhism and New Age teaching. She said one night she was chanting
in her house when suddenly she saw swirls of like light energy in her room.

As she watched she said all of it came together in one place and there stood Jesus Christ! She said he opened his mouth and said "My Son and I are one"! She said the room became full of the greatest sensation of love imaginable and after awhile she became aware that she was singing in other languages in the deepest love for Jesus Christ.

She said she had been led to Christ Gospel Church where she was baptized and serving the Lord. We accepted her invite to visit her Church one night so we saw the change in her life.

So just a testimony I thought you might enjoy and proof that Jesus has power to save to the uttermost!
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Yes bro., but all this stuff is in confidentiality. This thread is trashing a soul that has repented. We are no different than the Pharisee Simon in the passage I presented.

I felt the Holy Ghost smite me with sorrow as I posted that.
No it's not! It was in the news
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So the lesson we learned was that cards are of the devil and everybody should have refused the invite to the card game. Ha! Ha!! HAAA!!!
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John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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