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Old 12-04-2015, 05:14 PM
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A great response Esaias and I appreciate everyone else adding their input.

This is a serious question, that one can find conflicting views with in scripture.

Nowhere do we see the disciples killing anyone, even though they feared greatly for their lives. Nowhere do we see that the Christians fought back against Saul as he sought them out to kill them. But we do read that they fled, and that the word of God was spread throughout the world because they fled instead of fought.

I understand that a nation has laws, and those laws need to be obeyed, and there are those who must carry out the obeying of those laws, such as military and police.

But if we are to love our enemies... who then are our enemies? If our enemy is not one who seeks to kill and destroy us, who then is our enemy?
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:21 PM
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Fleeing is our 1st line of defense in a home invasion. Standing your ground is sometimes inevitable though.
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Evil men break in my house and try to rape my wife and daughter, I'll do whatever I can to stop them. Carnal or not...
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I know this is a serious question. I have often pondered it myself. I honestly don't know how I would respond to such a scenario. Truly. We own guns. I know how to use them. Could I kill someone who was trying to kill me or harm my family?

I don't know. I think I would try to wound them, though.
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I know this is a serious question. I have often pondered it myself. I honestly don't know how I would respond to such a scenario. Truly. We own guns. I know how to use them. Could I kill someone who was trying to kill me or harm my family?

I don't know. I think I would try to wound them, though.
Never pull a weapon you don't intend to use.

Always aim center mass.
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I know this is a serious question. I have often pondered it myself. I honestly don't know how I would respond to such a scenario. Truly. We own guns. I know how to use them. Could I kill someone who was trying to kill me or harm my family?

I don't know. I think I would try to wound them, though.

IMHO, Not so much a matter of trying to wound/harm or kill someone, as it is simply trying to stop someone with the worst of sick headed intentions. When A child makes eye contact(under the worst) w the one who should protect them, I believe that protective instinct will out of love, attempt do what is necessary to stop the situation.

It's not a a matter of shoot to kill, it's a matter of shoot to stop.


But maybe I am just carnal.....guess I'll take my chances...


Scripture...still very debated
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:07 PM
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Jesus took whips to folks that irked Him.

If someone would have assaulted His mother, He may have busted that person in the chops?

Who knows?
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IMHO, Not so much a matter of trying to wound/harm or kill someone, as it is simply trying to stop someone with the worst of sick headed intentions. When A child makes eye contact(under the worst) w the one who should protect them, I believe that protective instinct will out of love, attempt do what is necessary to stop the situation.

It's not a a matter of shoot to kill, it's a matter of shoot to stop.


But maybe I am just carnal.....guess I'll take my chances...


Scripture...still very debated
Indeed, finding scripture for this debate can be found for both sides of the argument. I believe it must come down to the individual, and the situation as it presents itself. I don't think there is a one size fits all for this discussion.
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Always aim center mass.
I understand that concept, although I pray I never have to employ it.
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Jesus took whips to folks that irked Him.

If someone would have assaulted His mother, He may have busted that person in the chops?

Who knows?
The arguments certainly exist on both sides of this discussion, and I guess we just need to pray that the spirit of the Lord will be our direction, and compass in the moment when we need it the most.
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