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Old 05-26-2016, 01:09 PM
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Re: "A Pentecostal Approach to Transgenderism"

I vote we treat transgendered people like eunuchs. That's essentially what they are.

Remember there are several classifications of eunuch:
1.) Some were born eunuchs. These were born with deformity or hermaphroditic genitalia. Some might argue that some seemingly "normal" individuals (primarily males in this example) identified as the opposite sex since their earliest memories and fall into this category.
2.) Some were made eunuchs by men. These were castrated as a result of being prisoners of war, being chosen for special service to the king, or by personal request due a lack of interest in being male. These are said to have never felt passion towards a woman.
3.) Some were made eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom. These individuals felt that it was best to abate or correct passions through castration.
Ancient depictions of eunuchs from ancient writings illustrate that not all eunuchs were castrated. Instead, many who were men lived as women. The ancient world didn't classify them as male or female, but rather as being "eunuch" (a third gender based on behavior and physiology). Eunuchs of all kinds were said to have been "soft spoken" and feminine in disposition. They typically wore bright colors and flowing silks. They were regarded as being highly intelligent and due to their lake of passion for women, they made excellent guards and care givers for a king's harem. In ancient times eunuchs were often used as concubines by their masters (a eunuch could never be classified as a "wife").

Jewish eunuchs who were castrated were not permitted to worship in the Temple.

Prophetically speaking, God states that He would one day give access to the eunuch and a name better than that of sons and daughters, an everlasting name that shall not be cut off:
Isaiah 56:3-5King James Version (KJV)
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the Lord, speak, saying, The Lord hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Today eunuchs can still be found in remote regions of the Middle East, Pakistan, and India.


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Old 05-26-2016, 10:35 PM
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Guys, sometimes people have to pee or take a dump. I've had to go so bad, I've gone into the ladies room before. While I think it is inappropriate except in times of emergency, I think it is stupid to make it a "crime".

At the end of the day, it is all about keeping an eye on your kids. Be a real parent and you'll not have to worry so darn much. When my kids go to the bathroom and I'm the only parent on duty.... I take my little girl into the men's room with me. And most of the time men act rather decent knowing a little lady is in the room. I do not leave her unsupervised. And when my boy is with me, he too is adequately supervised. If you allow your kid/kids to be vulnerable to ANYONE harassing them in a public bathroom.... maybe you're not a fit parent.
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My daughters are teenagers and not once have they gone with me in to the men's room.
Thank You!

I have two daughters. NEVER would I take them into the men's room.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:08 PM
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I vote we treat transgendered people like eunuchs. That's essentially what they are.

Remember there are several classifications of eunuch:
1.) Some were born eunuchs. These were born with deformity or hermaphroditic genitalia. Some might argue that some seemingly "normal" individuals (primarily males in this example) identified as the opposite sex since their earliest memories and fall into this category.
2.) Some were made eunuchs by men. These were castrated as a result of being prisoners of war, being chosen for special service to the king, or by personal request due a lack of interest in being male. These are said to have never felt passion towards a woman.
3.) Some were made eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom. These individuals felt that it was best to abate or correct passions through castration.
Ancient depictions of eunuchs from ancient writings illustrate that not all eunuchs were castrated. Instead, many who were men lived as women. The ancient world didn't classify them as male or female, but rather as being "eunuch" (a third gender based on behavior and physiology). Eunuchs of all kinds were said to have been "soft spoken" and feminine in disposition. They typically wore bright colors and flowing silks. They were regarded as being highly intelligent and due to their lake of passion for women, they made excellent guards and care givers for a king's harem. In ancient times eunuchs were often used as concubines by their masters (a eunuch could never be classified as a "wife").

Jewish eunuchs who were castrated were not permitted to worship in the Temple.

Prophetically speaking, God states that He would one day give access to the eunuch and a name better than that of sons and daughters, an everlasting name that shall not be cut off:
Isaiah 56:3-5King James Version (KJV)
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the Lord, speak, saying, The Lord hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Today eunuchs can still be found in remote regions of the Middle East, Pakistan, and India.

The transgender movement is not a "eunuch" movement. I can't believe I have to even point that out.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:17 PM
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The transgender movement is not a "eunuch" movement. I can't believe I have to even point that out.
There are a lot of things surrounding this issue that I'm finding hard to believe. Especially how professed Christians are ok with this, and have adopted the arguments of the world to attack fellow Christians who aren't.

Not necessarily happening here, but I've seen it all over FB.
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There are a lot of things surrounding this issue that I'm finding hard to believe. Especially how professed Christians are ok with this, and have adopted the arguments of the world to attack fellow Christians who aren't.

Not necessarily happening here, but I've seen it all over FB.
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The transgender movement is not a "eunuch" movement. I can't believe I have to even point that out.
I'm simply saying that the eunuchs of ancient times up until now have been comprised of men castrated against their will, men who desired to live as females and were willingly castrated, those castrated for royal service (typically the care and training of royal wives), those born with various genital deformities, and ascetics who chose castration as an extreme measure to overcome lust. In fact, the ancient mind regarded eunuchs as a third category of identity. They were no longer men, and they were not women. They were a third gender, an altered person.

And frankly, the early church appears to have had no problems with sharing the Gospel with the eunuchs among them. You see, they didn't regard them as men.... they were seen as a being in a category of their own.

C'mon, I even showed you a video of the eunuch community of India, which mirrors that found in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Nepal, etc. Our Bible commentaries and dictionaries give a false impression of what the eunuchs were and are by romanticizing the definition of a eunuch.

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Old 05-27-2016, 12:19 PM
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Thank You!

I have two daughters. NEVER would I take them into the men's room.
Well, when I've had to go... I certainly wasn't going to leave my daughter unsupervised outside of the restroom. Nor was I going to place her into the care of strangers. And up until recently (she's now going on 10), I wouldn't even allow her to use the ladies room by herself. For the most part, I've kept her under my direct supervision every single second when I've taken her out-and-about with me.

Her assessment of the men's room, "The boys room is smelly." lol
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:23 PM
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Thank You!

I have two daughters. NEVER would I take them into the men's room.
Why you judging? lol

You mean to tell me that if your 5 year old daughter needed to use the restroom "immediately" while out in a public place without a family bathroom, you'd send her into the ladies room alone???? Or are you saying that you'd go into the ladies room with her? Or are you saying that only take your daughter(s) out with their mother because you want to avoid having to face circumstances like that? Sorry bro.... one time I was at Meijer's and she had to go. And they had no family bathrooms. I took her in with me. When she's out with me, I'm her wing man. I've got her back... and I always will.

So, I've taken my little girl into the men's room with me. She was shy at first, but after a couple times she'd square her shoulders and allow me to show her to a stall or quietly stand against the back wall while I took a leak. Most of the men in the men's room would man-up, act decent, and move along. When she'd have to go, I'd stand outside that stall like a guardian and only open that door to assist her if she needed help.

Oh, and speaking of "help".... When I worked for the MRDD, I knew a dad to had to routinely take his wheelchair bound daughter with cerebral palsy into the men's room because he had to assist her.

Some of y'all are acting so "holy" you'd let your daughters mess themselves before manning-up and being a dad who could march them into the men's room and stand by her like a hero.

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