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Lexicon Results for presbyteros (Strong's G4245) Greek for G4245 πρεσβύτερος Transliteration
presbyteros
Pronunciation

pres-bü'-te-ros (Key)

Part of Speech
adjective

Root Word (Etymology)

comparative of presbus (elderly)

TDNT Reference
6:651,931
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Outline of Biblical Usage 1) elder, of age,

a) the elder of two people

b) advanced in life, an elder, a senior

1) forefathers

2) a term of rank or office

a) among the Jews

1) members of the great council or Sanhedrin (because in early times the rulers of the people, judges, etc., were selected from elderly men)

2) of those who in separate cities managed public affairs and administered justice

b) among the Christians, those who presided over the assemblies (or churches) The NT uses the term bishop, elders, and presbyters interchangeably

c) the twenty four members of the heavenly Sanhedrin or court seated on thrones around the throne of God

You obviously do not consider him an elder because of his age, so would "Elder" Prince meet the biblical, New Testament qualifications for his lofty title?

1. Is he a ruler of a council?
2. Is he a secular ruler of any sort?
3. Does he preside over an assembly?
4. Does he sit around the throne of God?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I like that repent sign. Did you make it or find it someplace?

Found it on the net ... It's a reminder for all of us - me first.

... it's a note also to the sacramentalist baptismal regenerationists.

[ChTatum]

Elder Prince does indeed preside over an assembly.

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Elder Prince does indeed preside over an assembly.

Well there you have it; Elder Prince he is. Where does he pastor?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

Well there you have it; Elder Prince he is. Where does he pastor?

This is a bit facetious. I don't think that when the bible instructs us to call the elders if there are any sick among us ... it asks us for presiding credentials.

[mfblume]

"elder", "Yeshua", all these terms. I know what they mean. Why cannot we get down to earth? lol

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This is a bit facetious. I don't think that when the bible instructs us to call the elders if there are any sick among us ... it asks us for presiding credentials.

No?

Paul wasn't Elder Paul?
Peter wasn't Elder Peter?
Apollos wasn't Elder Apollos?

You may be on to something Elder Alicea.

[Praxeas]

Speaking as both an admin and a user, let's be careful NOT to direct any post at BP or about him that would be a negative commentary about him. He did not call himself an elder and this thread he started was strictly to let others know why he would be gone for a while.

Im not saying anyone is doing this but the direction it is going I can see this possibly happening.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Speaking as both an admin and a user, let's be careful NOT to direct any post at BP or about him that would be a negative commentary about him. He did not call himself an elder and this thread he started was strictly to let others know why he would be gone for a while.

Im not saying anyone is doing this but the direction it is going I can see this possibly happening.

Thanks

I can't imagine anyone being so cruel as to purposefully hurt another poster Praxeas.

Speaking of the title "Elder", I wonder why "Brother" isn't good enough any longer? Could it be that "Brother" implies equality while "Elder" implies superiority?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

No?

Paul wasn't Elder Paul?
Peter wasn't Elder Peter?
Apollos wasn't Elder Apollos?

You may be on to something Elder Alicea.

When John Mark started his ministry Paul did not give him his "PROPS" right away ... later Paul was asking for him by name

... post awhile longer and perhaps I'll consider you an elder. oloroid