Are The 70.Wks Of Daniel Fulfilled ?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by onlygrace

The 70 weeks of Daniel are fulfilled. We know that the Messiah was to come after the 69th week ie. the beginning of the 70th week. He was cut off in the midst of the week and the 70 weeks were fulfilled 3 1/2 years after Calvary as Bro. Blume has stated.

On a side note, I find it interesting that Jesus was rejected by the Jews because they were expecting the Messiah to establish a physical kingdom and yet Jesus told them that His Kingdom was not of this world, that it came without observation and was within you. He told His disciples in Matthew 16:28Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

And here we are almost 2000 years later and many expect Jesus to come and establish a physical kingdom in physical Jerusalem in a physical temple when the New Testament teaches no such thing.

Very, very insightful point.

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Yes sir...

Jesus, speaking to those standing in front of him, said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet"

Jesus set within them an expectation that they, themselves, would see this thing.

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Believer

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

I agree with the proponent of this thought. My take is that Jerusalem was the holy place, and the Roman armies with their idolatrous standards abominated the place. But then the temple was also ravaged and the Romans stood up their standard idols there as well.

It is also recounted in history where the zealots put a man described as a "clown" to be high priest and sleew the actual high priest at the time.

At any rate, history shows that the church recognized Rome's siege of Jerusalem to be the fulfillment of Matt 24 and Luke 21, and fled to Pella! Not one Christian perished.

[ApostolicTexas]

Originally Posted by Believer

If you don't mine I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?

The 1st century church did...Jesus speaking directly to his disciples telling them what THEY would see and they did

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

The 1st century church did...Jesus speaking directly to his disciples telling them what THEY would see and they did

Then we have to assume that all the disciples lived until the year 70 A.D.? That would be the case if they saw the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple as Jesus apparently told them...right?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Believer

Then we have to assume that all the disciples lived until the year 70 A.D.? That would be the case if they saw the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple as Jesus apparently told them...right?

the end of Matt 16 says MANY OF THEM who were there would see his coming. Not all.

Originally Posted by mfblume

the end of Matt 16 says MANY OF THEM who were there would see his coming. Not all.

That does seem plausible. I check all the resources I can get my hands on and they are split about even. Some agree with you, and other don't. I'm not sure, so I concede.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Believer

That does seem plausible. I check all the resources I can get my hands on and they are split about even. Some agree with you, and other don't. I'm not sure, so I concede.

They disagree with what Jesus said?

[Falla39]

[QUOTE=Believer;230056]If you don't mind I would like to go back to the statement you made above. Jesus said "When YOU see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION....."

When did this take place and who seen this take place?[/QUOTE]


If we could ask the same question pertaining to the FLOOD,

when did this take place and who seen this take place?

God said His people were destroyed for lack of knowledge,

because they had rejected knowledge....". Paul also speaks

of Israel having a ZEAL, but not according to knowledge.

We are told to PROVE ALL things. When we hear something

new, many times we "kicK' it out because it is not what we

have heard before or it is not what "they" said. We need to

"Check it out, using the Word of God as THE STANDARD!

If we approached a person that was ignorant of the Word,

and told him that there was a great flood coming that would

destroy the world and they had better get ready for it. Expect

a great flood of destruction. If they didn't have the knowledge

of the Word, they could possibly be persuaded it was true and

like Chicken Little, start running about, declaring the end is coming.

However we who have knowledge about what the Word says about

the Flood, know that it is past, It happened a long time ago. We

have a RAINBOW to prove the WORD. A SIGN.

Did Jesus say the temple would be destroyed and their city would

be burned! Did it happen. Why isn't there a temple there! Jesus was

in the temple one day and was very angry and "tore things up" so to

speak. He asked if it was not written that MY (God's)house shall be

called a house of prayer for all people (nations). No longer would God

dwell in temples made by man's hands but His people would be the

temple of the Living God. He would no longer dwell WITH them but

would live IN them. Are we insisting on having something God des-

troyed! Is our lack of knowledge destroying us! Jesus told the woman

at the well that the hour cometh , when you shall neither in this

mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. The true worshiper

would worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh

such to worship Him. GOD IS a Spirit; and they that worship Him must

worship Him in spirit and in truth. She had the choice to believe Jesus

or go on in unbelief. She chose to believe him. Will we? He said a lot of

other things and told his disciples that the words he spake to them

were spirit and they were life. (Life giving)

Just some sincere questions from a elder sister.

Blessings,

Falla39

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

They disagree with what Jesus said?

Thanks for your opinion, I’ll file it away like I do all the others!