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09-29-2007, 10:59 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The cons saw it as a way to monitor ... those who might get on the slippery slope ... some left on the very premise and not doctrine ... just on the inherent mistrust found in asking a man of God to sign it every 2 years ...
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Yes, evidently, lack of trust was the reason for having to sign periodically...
...man, my own life insurance company doesnt even require me to do a check up (other than the initial one) to see if I've become overweight or my cholesterol level is up....and they've got billions on the line with their clients....
...and Men of God cannot trust one another?
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09-29-2007, 11:08 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by ILG
Seriously, no one can sign the affirmation without "lying". I think that should be understood by all.
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HA! Well at least we are all in unity... IN HELL! 
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09-29-2007, 11:15 PM
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HA! Well at least we are all in unity... IN HELL! |
How so, when did you ever have license with the UPCI?
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09-29-2007, 11:17 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Not to spoil the party, put the change is not within the AOF, but within the constitution.
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09-29-2007, 11:19 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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what is ironic is I have heard of UC pastors that listen to country music like Kenny Rogers and other things yet they are hard ball against TV and on standards etc etc...
weird.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-29-2007, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Not to spoil the party, put the change is not within the AOF, but within the constitution.
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Matt, you are one who has consistently made the tv language out as a huge integrity issue. You now say it is not a part of what you affirm when signing?
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09-29-2007, 11:23 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Matt, you are one who has consistently made the tv language out as a huge integrity issue. You now say it is not a part of what you affirm when signing?
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I have made a huge deal out of it because it is part of the bylaws of the UPCI for a minister not to own a tv. This continues to be part of the bylaws, and I still find it unethical for a man to be a part of an org, yet go against the bylaws of the org. The AS has nothing to do with my dispute.
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09-29-2007, 11:25 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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When did the by-LAWS replace the AOF as the standard for the entire UPC? Why even have a set of by-LAWS
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-29-2007, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I have made a huge deal out of it because it is part of the bylaws of the UPCI for a minister not to own a tv. This continues to be part of the bylaws, and I still find it unethical for a man to be a part of an org, yet go against the bylaws of the org. The AS has nothing to do with my dispute.
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Sure it does.
If a man signs that he believes and will teach the AOF, how can he preach against ads or ministry on tv?
It's the exact same principle.
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09-29-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Sure it does.
If a man signs that he believes and will teach the AOF, how can he preach against ads or ministry on tv?
It's the exact same principle.
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Ok, was it a mandate for TV, or a mandate for advertising?
Everyone kept stating the latter, you equate it with the former.
and they wonder why men now want to leave.....
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