Look what the trinity folks are saying

[stmatthew]

For those that may be offended, this was simply an experiment that I thought about. Oneness folks are always accused of being hateful when they say that a trinitarian is lost. I wanted to find out what trinitarians would say towards a Oneness. Of the probably 40 posts, I don't think any of those that professed to be trinitarian stated that we Oneness folks were saved. And this was by no means an apologetic forum, though ever answer could have come from an aggresive defender of the trinitarian doctrine.

ALSO, I would like to note that a moderator stepped in and would not allow doctrine not espoused by that forum to continue unchecked, and threatened to close the thread if it continued. I saw no one screaming, censorship over there, however, as they were mature enough to know that they were visitors and guest, and the privilege was extended to them with strings attached.

[stmatthew]

Let me add this last post here, as this pretty much summed up the feelings there.

Unless you accept that the Godhead consists of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all of which are co-equal and the same in substance (and unchanging), with the rest of trinitarian doctrine, then we do not agree.

Oneness is heresy, plain and simple.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

We believe trinitarians are lost because they don't know Who He is; trinitarians believe we are lost because we don't know who "they" are.

LOL! Now that is outright funny!

[Hoovie]

St matt. I would attribute the responses to the way you phrased the question and to ignorance concerning the Oneness views.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

St matt. I would attribute the responses to the way you phrased the question and to ignorance concerning the Oneness views.

Possibly. I do not believe this is the general consensus of ALL trinitarians. As someone has stated, many to not even know what they believe. But I do not think these folks are ignorant to what the Oneness folks believe. IF you are an apologetic for a cause, you always study the opposing view in order to combat it. They may not have revelation, but of course if they did, they would become Oneness.

[Hoovie]

I would be interested in knowing if questions such as these would be viewed differently.


The church my family attends teaches we are saved by grace, through faith alone in the shed blood of Jesus.

Our church is well balanced and is energized by those finding new life in Christ.

Our church baptises in Jesus name and we believe in the complete and absolute divinity and humanity of Christ as the only Son of God.

We do not ascribe to the historic modalism that says God simply plays three roles, but affirm the Father as God outside the incarnation, and the Son as God in and through the incarnation, and the Holy Spirit as God in the hearts of the believers.

While we do believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, they do not view God as "Three Persons".

My question is; Can you accept my family as fellow Christians? Are we saved in your eyes in spite of our inability to fully agree with your profession of faith?

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

It does paint a picture of the opposite side of the coin. For all those that cry how bad we are because we "exclude" trinitarians from being saved because they do not know who HE is, I find it funny that all I got for all this hard scientific work was a "dumb thread" comment.

btw - I was not selective in the posts I posted here. I just grabbed a few per page.

Brother,

This has been a good thread and has given me much to think about regarding how trinitarians view Apostolic Christians. Reading what your posted from the other forum brought back memories of my COG grandfather's reaction when he found out that I was baptized in Jesus' name. Boy, I sure caught a lot of grief for a long time after that decision!

[Steve Epley]

Nothing ever changes these folks know more about what the Trinitarians believe than the Trinitarians themselves.