The Reason Some Apostolics Are Concerned: The Results of Erased Lines - Page 4

LadyCoonskinner · #31 10-31-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Sister, it has been my experience that apostolic preachers are deathly afraid of ever admitting they are wrong about anything, so all this fighting to maintain the status quo doesn't surprise me one bit. The apostolic church has managed to preach itself into a corner. I, for one, am glad that people are finally willing to admit that some things went overboard and changes are being made.

I really don' think we've preached ourselves into a corner more than technology has outflanked us. I don't think that preaching against TV was overboard, it was what it was, another way to keep the world out of your home and to some that was very important.

Now that the internet and cell phones are here, it has become increasingly different and more difficult for people to believe that TV was bad, and at one time it really was, and still can be, but........so can the internet and the cell phone.

It's really a matter of personal convictions and committment. How far are we willing to go to keep our OWN level of committment to God and HIS plans that HE has for us.

Rico · #32 10-31-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

I really don' think we've preached ourselves into a corner more than technology has outflanked us. I don't think that preaching against TV was overboard, it was what it was, another way to keep the world out of your home and to some that was very important.

Now that the internet and cell phones are here, it has become increasingly different and more difficult for people to believe that TV was bad, and at one time it really was, and still can be, but........so can the internet and the cell phone.

It's really a matter of personal convictions and committment. How far are we willing to go to keep our OWN level of committment to God and HIS plans that HE has for us.

Sister, you prove my point with this post. You said technology has outflanked y'all. You're right. What you are seeing are the results of too much focus on the thou shalt nots and not enough focus on the thou shalts. The simple truth is that it was simple to make up rules to control people from things like tv or certain radio stations. However, with the advances in technology over the last 15 years, there's no way for the rulemaking to keep up. As I said, too much focus on the thou shalt nots and not enough on the thou shalts. My hope is that the apostolic church learns a valuable lesson on what's important, via all these changes taking place. Holiness can not be legislated.

The Dean · #33 10-31-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

I really don' think we've preached ourselves into a corner more than technology has outflanked us. I don't think that preaching against TV was overboard, it was what it was, another way to keep the world out of your home and to some that was very important.

Now that the internet and cell phones are here, it has become increasingly different and more difficult for people to believe that TV was bad, and at one time it really was, and still can be, but........so can the internet and the cell phone.

It's really a matter of personal convictions and committment. How far are we willing to go to keep our OWN level of committment to God and HIS plans that HE has for us.

This is a very good post. Thank you for saying exactly what I think.

Rico · #34 10-31-2007, 01:07 AM

Well, I gotta hit the sack. I am moving in the morning. See y'all later.

Joseph Miller · #35 10-31-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

I really don' think we've preached ourselves into a corner more than technology has outflanked us. I don't think that preaching against TV was overboard, it was what it was, another way to keep the world out of your home and to some that was very important.

Now that the internet and cell phones are here, it has become increasingly different and more difficult for people to believe that TV was bad, and at one time it really was, and still can be, but........so can the internet and the cell phone.

It's really a matter of personal convictions and committment. How far are we willing to go to keep our OWN level of committment to God and HIS plans that HE has for us.

I totally agree with what you have said here. It is really a matter of personal convictions and committment.

The standards that I live are because of person convictions not because of rules from anyone. What I do, I do because I am in love with Jesus.

Sweet Pea · #36 10-31-2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico

If someone has a conviction against something then they need to have it to themselves and not expect everyone else to have the same conviction, Sister.

Hey Rico........... keep this in mind during the Christmas season....

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Sweet Pea · #37 10-31-2007, 05:57 AM

Steadfast,

Your first post frightens me.... To think that the PAW is so close to accepting the trinitarian doctrine....

I'm in a conundrum (sp ?) as to where I stand on the Resolution 4 issue. I truly believe that media (TV, internet, radio, etc) can be a valuable tool in reaching the lost.... and I also firmly believe that there are men of God who are able to use any and all media to win souls and it will not affect them or their church in a detrimental manner..... HOWEVER, having said that .... I also firmly believe that we have people (yes, even pastors & ministers) who will not be able to handle it - and it will affect their ministry and the churches they pastor in a very detrimental way.

So then, some would say... "well, then their walk wasn't what it should be" or "they had a 'heart' issue BEFORE and it would have come out in some other form".... that may be so, but ......

I once heard a very wise man say: "Don't tear down a fence until you know and understand why it was built" .....

I've been part of the UPCI all my life - I don't believe that we will be the only ones in Heaven - but I do believe that we are living in the end time and the enemy will use deception to cause people to lose out with God - and the sad part is, they won't even realize what happened... What does the scripture say about "even the elect will be deceived" and "Lord, we did all this in your name" and He replies "Depart from me, I never knew you...." (Forgive me if I have taken either of these references out of context.)

I just want to live close enough to Jesus to hear that still, small voice when He says "come up higher...."

Just my random rattling this morning ......

Carry on....................

Consapostolic1 · #38 10-31-2007, 06:11 AM

I was speaking to a lady from the PAW here and she was telling me that she felt alot of the older bishops hold up the PAW by trying to keep non-apostolics from preaching in their conferences and things. I just thought to myself oh my goodness why would you even think it's okay to allow someone preach for you if you know their doctorinal views are unbiblical?

revrandy · #39 10-31-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

AB:

Perhaps a few are... but most are not. By the way, why is that anybody that still holds firm to Apostolic disciplines are immediately branded by you as control freaks? You know that is a really broad brush.

I could say some interesting things about you, since you let go of many things you once said you believed, that would put you in the same company as Hinn, Bakker and Swaggart, Bynum (who let go of things), Weeks and many others... but that would be a really broad brush would it not?

Has nothing to do with being control freaks for the vast, very vast majority of them; it has to do with being loyal to the message that brought us to where we are.

I just can't figure out why you seem to hate that so much.

There is no justification when other folks won't go down the same roads....

Whole Hearted · #40 10-31-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

AB:

Perhaps a few are... but most are not. By the way, why is that anybody that still holds firm to Apostolic disciplines are immediately branded by you as control freaks? You know that is a really broad brush.

I could say some interesting things about you, since you let go of many things you once said you believed, that would put you in the same company as Hinn, Bakker and Swaggart, Bynum (who let go of things), Weeks and many others... but that would be a really broad brush would it not?

Has nothing to do with being control freaks for the vast, very vast majority of them; it has to do with being loyal to the message that brought us to where we are.

I just can't figure out why you seem to hate that so much.