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Old 07-09-2008, 11:41 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Brother,

Do You know any folk as big as the side of a house who eat like vacuum cleaners?

Do You believe they are saved?

Do You fellowship with them or preach against them?


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Brother Epley!

Do You not want to answer these questions???


Hmmmm?


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Old 07-09-2008, 11:46 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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You know I was thinking about this during church tonight and really this issue has more to do with the following scripture moreso than the "Body is a temple of the Holy Spirit..." concept and that is...

"Thou shall have no other Gods before me."

Man cannot serve a nicotine addiction and the Lord at the same time.

Brother,

My Father-in-law use to smoke one cigarette at night before bedtime.

How many cigarettes do You need before they become idolatry?

How many chickens?

Four?

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:04 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Back in the olden days, the Holy Ghost was powerful enough to deliver from worldly habits.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:08 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Arise Peter kill and eat...
but to me God did shew to call no man common or unclean;

It doesn't mean unclean food can come into the human body, but that Gentiles can come into the Messianic Body.

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:12 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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What are your thoughts on mixing different clothing materials together?
Just don't mix linen and wool together. Everything else is fine.

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:15 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Rico I think the better question to ask is what should we not follow?

If the law was a way for a nation to express his righteousness and nature to the world as God's chosen then I think much of it should be reflected in our lives. The law had many purposes and one was to reveal his nature to his people. I am not talking about doing these as unto righteousness but as a response of a good conscience before God.

Does the prophecy not say the law would be written on our heart. To say "law" is done away is misleading. A covenant can be done away but the nature/law of God does not. It if was bad for you then it is bad for you now.
Sure somethings are shadow and type but much in the MC is light!
Quoted for truth.

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:17 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

ONE cigarette serves the addiction, nicotine god.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:48 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Everything doesn't mean everything. right I got it.
Brother, you cited: "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."
G-d allowed Noah and his sons to eat everything, but He didn't give the same license to their seed. He certainly could have; after all, notice a few verses later that G-d makes a covenant with Noah, his sons, their seed, and the beasts regarding His promise to never flood the earth again.

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Look if you want to obey laws that were given only to Israel go ahead, but don't put the rest of us under your bondage.
Baron, you may be surprised to know that Gentiles were present at Mt. Sinai when G-d gave His Holy Torah.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:06 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Can a person be a smoker and still be saved? Yes.
Some take the view that smoking is a sin. According to both the Old and New Testaments, sin is defined as transgression of Torah. Nowhere in Torah is smoking listed as a prohibited act the way other acts are prohibited. According to the Torah, smoking is not a sin.

Should someone saved be a smoker? No.
Reducing the length of our lives from sucking on cancer sticks is not the best way to express our gratitude to our Creator. We're to be good stewards, and this includes the way we are to take care of the vessel G-d gave us.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:47 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Back in the olden days, the Holy Ghost was powerful enough to deliver from worldly habits.
I believe He still is more than powerful enough. But will that change happen immediately for every person every time? I'd say no, but that's JMHO.

Can Christians fall into sin, develop evil habits and still be saved, while struggling to break free from the trap they fell or even jumped into? I'd say yes, but that's JMHO.
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