Did Jesus Wear Pants?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Who has the right? All of us have the right to tell you like it is.

All of us have the right to tell you to get it together when you threaten suicide.

Public forum be generic and don't tell other posters that you are losing it and need to smoke weed.

First, I never threatened suicide. That is another deliberate distortion.

Second, aside from my curiosity about medical cannabis as it relates to PTSD, I've only been discussing the medicinal value what has been reported about it.

EB, this is a public forum. But there are rules. Admins should be preventing the kind of harassment that is non-stop from you. The Code of Conduct on this forum reads:

We do not allow any rebuking, hatefulness, name calling, or verbal attacks by any person or group of people, toward any person or group of people. Content that is unseemly, using bad language, or any form of insinuating bad language (i.e. one letter and ****), or offensive slang, is not permitted.

This administration knows that God's Word allows for rebuking and correction under certain conditions, but because of the lack of understanding by some, as well as the differing views by a multitude of readers here, and for the sake of peace, we will not permit it under any circumstances.

Now, I'm sure I've violated this at some point too. That's one reason why I haven't repeatedly reported you. And I definitely don't want you banned. But, I'm setting out to abide by this. I want to clean up my act and play by the rules.

It also reads:

Given this is an active forum, and we many times have heated discussions on various subjects, Admin will continually moderate the attitudes of the posts that are presented on AFF. As a rule of thumb...


Organizations can be discussed but not assaulted.
Posters can have disagreements but not bloodbaths.
Apostolic truth can be questioned but not be mocked.
Doctrinal absolutes can be queried but not criticized.
Admin can be contacted privately but not called out openly.
Standards can be debated but not minimized and disrespected.
Posts can be diametrically opposed but not diabolically attacking.
Concerns can be expressed freely but not just hurled and unrestricted.

You're supposed to be a man of integrity. Why don't you try to abide by the rules? We can work together at this in some way if you like. But as a previous poster indicated... this feud is nothing other posters appreciate. Why can't we cease fire and choose to believe the best of one another?

And in spite of your public distortions, mischaracterizations, and pleas for my soul. I'd like to make note... I think I've only had a couple private messages from you over the years. You take some strange joy in this public inquisition. And my responses to you haven't always been in accordance to the proper spirit and attitude I should have presented. So, why do you persist? Look, even if you're right... you're wrong, bro.

Let's work on this together and move forward and make this forum a better place. We can be partners. You can come at the issue from the right, I'll sometimes come at it from the left. We could be AF's version of Hannity and Combs. lol But we don't have to demonize one another. We can make peace in our differences of opinion, and have faith that whatever the difference in opinion, the other's motives are pure.

We have the power to bring more peace to this forum. One of us can't do it alone. What do you say EB? Can the lion and the lamb make peace on AF?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Where did you get that picture? I agree with all the ones but the far right.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Aquila

First, I never threatened suicide. That is another deliberate distortion.

Second, aside from my curiosity about medical cannabis as it relates to PTSD, I've only been discussing the medicinal value what has been reported about it.

EB, this is a public forum. But there are rules. Admins should be preventing the kind of harassment that is non-stop from you. The Code of Conduct on this forum reads:

We do not allow any rebuking, hatefulness, name calling, or verbal attacks by any person or group of people, toward any person or group of people. Content that is unseemly, using bad language, or any form of insinuating bad language (i.e. one letter and ****), or offensive slang, is not permitted.

This administration knows that God's Word allows for rebuking and correction under certain conditions, but because of the lack of understanding by some, as well as the differing views by a multitude of readers here, and for the sake of peace, we will not permit it under any circumstances.

Now, I'm sure I've violated this at some point too. That's one reason why I haven't repeatedly reported you. And I definitely don't want you banned. But, I'm setting out to abide by this. I want to clean up my act and play by the rules.

It also reads:

Given this is an active forum, and we many times have heated discussions on various subjects, Admin will continually moderate the attitudes of the posts that are presented on AFF. As a rule of thumb...


Organizations can be discussed but not assaulted.
Posters can have disagreements but not bloodbaths.
Apostolic truth can be questioned but not be mocked.
Doctrinal absolutes can be queried but not criticized.
Admin can be contacted privately but not called out openly.
Standards can be debated but not minimized and disrespected.
Posts can be diametrically opposed but not diabolically attacking.
Concerns can be expressed freely but not just hurled and unrestricted.

You're supposed to be a man of integrity. Why don't you try to abide by the rules? We can work together at this in some way if you like. But as a previous poster indicated... this feud is nothing other posters appreciate. Why can't we cease fire and choose to believe the best of one another?

And in spite of your public distortions, mischaracterizations, and pleas for my soul. I'd like to make note... I think I've only had a couple private messages from you over the years. You take some strange joy in this public inquisition. And my responses to you haven't always been in accordance to the proper spirit and attitude I should have presented. So, why do you persist? Look, even if you're right... you're wrong, bro.

Let's work on this together and move forward and make this forum a better place. We can be partners. You can come at the issue from the right, I'll sometimes come at it from the left. We could be AF's version of Hannity and Combs. lol But we don't have to demonize one another. We can make peace in our differences of opinion, and have faith that whatever the difference in opinion, the other's motives are pure.

We have the power to bring more peace to this forum. One of us can't do it alone. What do you say EB? Can the lion and the lamb make peace on AF?

Aquila just let it go buddy..

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

First, I never threatened suicide. Another lie.

Chris you said what if you shoot yourself who will take care of your kids? So that is humorous to you? Is that how you drive home apoint? That you are susceptible to suicide? Why don't you get to a church tonight? Go find a church and get the Holy Ghost.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Second, aside from my curiosity about medical cannabis as it relates to PTSD, I've only been discussing the medicinal value that has been reported about it.

Ok, and the Holy Ghost works way better. Argument over.

Originally Posted by Aquila

EB, this is a public forum. But there are rules. Admins should be preventing the kind of harassment that is non-stop from you. The Code of Conduct on this forum reads:

You need to get the Holy Ghost isn't harassment.

You brought up about convictions and hearing from God. I then posted if someone is convinced that medical marijuana is another way then how do they hear from God while under the influence?.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Now, I'm sure I've violated this too at some point.

You mean how you mocked that when I was burned by my drunken stepparent on a lit stove how you thought it was funny? How you went on and on how a big baby I was because I soiled myself? You mean that?

Originally Posted by Aquila

That's one reason why I haven't repeatedly reported you. And I definitely don't want you banned.

Bro, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am going to say that you don't know what you are doing with this post. But, cut and pasting forum rules, and then making the above statement is Christianism. It is things we are supposed to say to sound Christain. It is like "I know you should be banned, (I should be banned too) but I don't want you banned because that wouldn't be loving. Chris, talk plain, you are a real person who makes comments out in the public. You say things about yourself which are personal. I have told you this before, don't post personal information, especially things that would get you Baker Acted. You were talking one minute how you wanted the thoughts to end and this was just after you spoke about suicide the night before. Yet, a few posts right after that you are posting about sour cream on tacos. Chris is this all a game for you? Do you like doing this stuff to see if you can get a rise? Or are you genuinely sick, if the latter is the case, then this forum isn't built or designed to take the place for therapy. It is DEFINITELY NOT A CHURCH OR PASTORATE. No one can pastor no one on any forum. For the simple reason we are not in any close proximity with each other. Telling you to go get a pastor and church and receive the Holy Ghost isn't trying to pastor anyone.

Originally Posted by Aquila

But, I'm setting out to abide by this. I want to clean up my act and play by the rules. You're supposed to be a man of integrity. Why don't you try to abide by the rules? We can work together at this in some way if you like. But as a previous post indicated... this feud is nothing other posters appreciate. Why can't we cease fire and choose to believe the best of one another?

I am not playing a game with you. You aren't posting this marijuana stuff to us because you are interested in other methods to treat mental illness. You wouldn't fight so hard if that was the case. You actually go out of your way when pressed to PROVE that it is legit. On an Apostolic Pentecostal forum.
You are in trouble Chris, and it shows.

[houston]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Where did you get that picture? I agree with all the ones but the far right.

Where do you think they got the idea to make panties? A modified male garment.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by houston

Where do you think they got the idea to make panties? A modified male garment.

that is not how it works

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by houston

Where do you think they got the idea to make panties? A modified male garment.

There is no legs its different altogether.

[Amanah]

God did not invent underwear, women did and starting wearing them right from the beginning of time.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Amanah

God did not invent underwear, women did and starting wearing them right from the beginning of time.

Huh? What do you mean, where did you get this from? I'm not doubting it, just never heard it before.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris you said what if you shoot yourself who will take care of your kids? So that is humorous to you? Is that how you drive home apoint? That you are susceptible to suicide? Why don't you get to a church tonight? Go find a church and get the Holy Ghost.

PTSD isn't a ride in the park. I don't know what tomorrow will bring. But I have no intention on doing anything unthinkable. The church I'm trying to warm up to doesn't have Thursday night services. But I do thank you for the suggestion.

Ok, and the Holy Ghost works way better. Argument over.

Amen. The Holy Ghost always works a better way. No doubt about that, my brother.

You need to get the Holy Ghost isn't harassment.

It feels like it sometimes, brother.

You brought up about convictions and hearing from God. I then posted if someone is convinced that medical marijuana is another way then how do they hear from God while under the influence?.

For most, it's the last resort, only a way to treat given symptoms. It's no cure, and it's no miracle. And it doesn't even work for a lot of folks. I was really upset that you equated my interest with me thinking it's some kind of second coming or deliverance. It's not. It's often the last resort to maintain sanity or to escape pain or some other unbearable symptom of various conditions.

I wouldn't expect anyone to hear from God while under the influence. Here's the thing, when it relieves symptoms of let's say PTSD, it doesn't just relieve them while high or medicated. It rights something biochemical that has gone wrong for just a few days. The high (if it contains THC) only lasts a few hours. But the window of mental and emotional clarity is like a brief window of relief that lasts a few days. I don't expect anyone to hear from God upon "medicating", at least not for a few hours. But in the days of clarity that follow, a lot can come to the surface and be looked at objectively. But it's no magic bullet or miracle. And it fades. But for many, it sure beats the dozens of pills one has to take daily and the side effects that they bring. Many who held off end up wishing they tried it sooner. During the days of clarity, one certainly can hear from God. I do know this personally, I can't hear from God when the PTSD attack begins. It's like being alone in a dark hole with emotions ranging from grief to rage, sometimes you're not even sure what triggered it or what the emotional flash back is connected to. So, either way, God is drowned out for a few hours by the attack or the medication. So, during that period... Would one rather be on the edge of harming themselves or others in a fit of controlled rage? Or safe at home, medicated for a few hours?

You mean how you mocked that when I was burned by my drunken stepparent on a lit stove how you thought it was funny? How you went on and on how a big baby I was because I soiled myself? You mean that?

I never should have done that. I was so hurt by some of the things you said that I felt mocked or minimized the pain of those with PTSD. I lashed out, and I wanted you to feel the same way. And I shouldn't have. I was wrong for saying that to you. And I am truly sorry.

Bro, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am going to say that you don't know what you are doing with this post. But, cut and pasting forum rules, and then making the above statement is Christianism. It is things we are supposed to say to sound Christain. It is like "I know you should be banned, (I should be banned too) but I don't want you banned because that wouldn't be loving. Chris, talk plain, you are a real person who makes comments out in the public. You say things about yourself which are personal. I have told you this before, don't post personal information, especially things that would get you Baker Acted. You were talking one minute how you wanted the thoughts to end and this was just after you spoke about suicide the night before. Yet, a few posts right after that you are posting about sour cream on tacos. Chris is this all a game for you? Do you like doing this stuff to see if you can get a rise? Or are you genuinely sick, if the latter is the case, then this forum isn't built or designed to take the place for therapy. It is DEFINITELY NOT A CHURCH OR PASTORATE. No one can pastor no one on any forum. For the simple reason we are not in any close proximity with each other. Telling you to go get a pastor and church and receive the Holy Ghost isn't trying to pastor anyone.

I assure you, it's not a game, brother. I can be unstable. I know and see the problem. But in spite of all my prayers, nothing changes. It's like being trapped on a roller coaster ride. I don't entirely trust "therapy" (long story). I don't trust prescription psychotropic meds (you know a good deal of that story). Every pastor I had either didn't believe in PTSD and told me it was just in my head, and that I could "will" myself free... Or they were ill-equipped to deal with how to help. They seemed genuinely concerned. But after full disclosure of what I'm going through, it was like they didn't want to talk again and would take measures to avoid me. I think it was because they simply didn't know what to do. I don't blame them. Aside from praying, I don't know what to do. I'm sure they prayed for me. And I have no problem with that. I can use all the prayer I can get.

I am not playing a game with you. You aren't posting this marijuana stuff to us because you are interested in other methods to treat mental illness. You wouldn't fight so hard if that was the case. You actually go out of your way when pressed to PROVE that it is legit. On an Apostolic Pentecostal forum.
You are in trouble Chris, and it shows.

I think I posted one thread on it. It's come up as part of the topic and political banter of legalization, which is a valid political subject. Beyond that, I was posting to your thread. Your thread was about psychotropic medications. I was just sharing my thoughts and what I currently know about it. More than anything, I push against the mischaracterizations. Bro, there are videos of people at wits end who break down and turn to medicinal cannabis as a last resort. They aren't out to get stoned. They have serious conditions. And trust me, I've been saved over 29 years. I never did drugs growing up. And I didn't even have alcohol until I was in the military. I have no desire to "return" to some drug culture. In fact, I've only looked into it in detail since last November based on it being in the news. And that was because of what happened on last Veteran's Day. I'm not going to elaborate on what happened, you've warned me about too much personal details. Sometimes I feel relief in talking about them. It helps me wrap my mind around it and own it. But bro, it was bad. Real bad. I truly believe that if you knew all the details, you'd understand that my interest is truly a health related interest.

I want to say, this post from you felt nice. I felt the genuine concern. I felt a little critical edge, but it didn't feel slanderous. And, you were willing to give me the benefit of a doubt on some level. I appreciate that. Thank you.