Rejoicing In the Sabbath: - Page 44

Aquila · #**431** 02-15-2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

T2W,
We are not saying the day of worship should be sunday. We are saying there is no special day of worship. Neither Saturday nor Sunday is a day of worship.

With regards to Paul keeping the Sabbath:
Col 2
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Notice that Paul said Sabbath dayS (plural). That would include all Sabbath days in the OT.

Actually, there is an argument that the usage of the plural "sabbath days" would more likely indicate the days of convolescence stipulated in the Law of Moses. This is because they are known as grouping of days, "feast days". However, the Sabbath (seventh day Sabbath) is often used singularly...because it is the Sabbath from the dawn of creation.

Aquila · #**432** 02-15-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Moreover, going to Church on Saturday is not the same thing as keeping the Sabbath...

No, it isn't. However, in the book of Acts we see the church gathering both on the Sabbath and Saturday nights following the sabbath gatherings. We DON'T see any Sunday gatherings.

Aquila · #**433** 02-15-2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

I prefer church on Sunday! After a late night at the club on Friday, I need all day Saturday to sleep. So, I do keep the sabbath. (TIC)

You're not right.

Aquila · #**434** 02-15-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

What allegedly changed at the councils was bogus. Nothing changed the fact that the early church broke bread the first day of the week, not because the day was holy. That is a strawman argument against not keeping sabbath though. IOW, not every one who goes to church on sunday does it because of the nutty decision the catholics made to change the sabbath. They never had anything right to begin with.

So, sorry, I stand by my words.

What would make your life easier is realizing that Gal 4:9-11 teaches the church is not intended to keep holy days, months and years from previous covenants. The truth will make you free! If sabbath keeping is making it hard as though something else would make it easier, that should awaken you to something being offkey with sabbath keeping. And what REALLY should make you free is knowing that the sabbath day was a shadow of resting in Christ forever, and that means we keep the sabbath because we keep the BODY and not there mere shadow.

The Romans FORCED the Sunday service upon the church in accordance to their calendar. Originally, the church met on Saturday nights (the first day of the week).

Aquila · #**435** 02-15-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

No he did not. He only did it to reach Jews on the synagogues and to win those under law. Show me where he kept sabbath because God expected him to. It's not there.

Show us a Sunday service.

Aquila · #**436** 02-15-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny44

I thought I read where someone wrote about Paul preaching all night till Sunday morning was still the SAbbaTH.

Sabbath (the seventh day) ended Saturday at sundown. The gathering in Acts 20 was after sundown Saturday night, so it was the first day of the week. Also, the meeting was a Havdalah service.

Aquila · #**437** 02-15-2012, 07:03 AM

Rev. Blume... do you agree that the meeting in Acts 20 on the first day of the week was a Saturday evening Havdalah meeting?

Aquila · #**438** 02-15-2012, 07:05 AM

Rev. Blume....

What's your take on this verse:

Isaiah 66:22-24
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Here, when God speaks of a "new heavens and a new earth", is He speaking about the eternal state.... or the New Covenant?

johnny44 · #**439** 02-15-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Rev. Blume....

What's your take on this verse:

Isaiah 66:22-24
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Here, when God speaks of a "new heavens and a new earth", is He speaking about the eternal state.... or the New Covenant?

Rev.21:22-27.There will be no night just one continuos day.

mfblume · #**440** 02-15-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Rev. Blume... do you agree that the meeting in Acts 20 on the first day of the week was a Saturday evening Havdalah meeting?

I asked to not be called "Rev". Thanks.

Anyway, I think the whole issue of determining what they meant by first day of the week is straining at gnats and swallowing the camel of days and months and years. In other words, it does not matter. The fact is that the first day was the first day. Period.