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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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What a silly statement.
And I love how you declared your own observation "interesting." 
How many preachers actually post on AFF ----AT ALL?
Btw, as a charter member of AFF, I think I've been around long enough to declare it is always the same POSTERS who whine about ministry. |
And always the same UC's who deny that any thing of the sort happens in any of the churches they know about.
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03-30-2009, 05:38 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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The majority of preachers and saints I have had the pleasure to be around were wonderful God loving-truth loving-folks. I don't have a sad song to sing. Yes I have been hurt and disappointed by both but honestly I am certain I have hurt others of which I regret. Getting hurt is part of the process to get out of here. It is the hurts-wounds-disappointments-trials-tests that cause us to turn to HIM who is the healer and consoler. My hurts can make me BETTER or BITTER. I choose to be made better by them. Bitterness imprisons those who have it. For me to go on today in HIM I must close the door on yesterdays hurts. I give my hurts to HIM and HE bears them well.
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Great post! Loved the way you put the statement in bold! It is so true! 
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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Definitely one of your better posts.
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What would that mean? 
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03-30-2009, 06:50 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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That is life some of us hurt folks unintentionallly and some folks are just mean and hurt folks on purpose. Some of us regret it and some rejoice in it.
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03-30-2009, 07:37 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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That is life some of us hurt folks unintentionallly and some folks are just mean and hurt folks on purpose. Some of us regret it and some rejoice in it. |
That's so right. And the key to the whole thing, if you are the one who has been hurt, is to be able to discern whether the hurt was unintentional or whether it was plain old meanness.
My guess is that over 90% of the time it is unintentional. But IF IT IS meanness, then the thing to do is to walk away. You would be better to just walk away than to stay and continue to be abused and let yourself get bitter.
On the other hand, if it is unintentional, then you MUST go to the person who hurt you and talk it over. They can't grow if you don't share with them. And if you don't talk it over, you will hold it in and it will fester and fester and become an even bigger thing than it ever was to start with.
I know this sounds like a simplified version of how these things work. I know there are variables that can change things. But for the most part...............
God is not the author of confusion. Or of pain. Or of bitterness. When the story of my life is written, my hope is that it will read as if God was the author.
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03-30-2009, 07:46 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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That's so right. And the key to the whole thing, if you are the one who has been hurt, is to be able to discern whether the hurt was unintentional or whether it was plain old meanness.
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Absolutely the key...sometimes we have the tendency to read into what others are saying or doing and often times, WE are the ones who create the situation based on perceptions. And then again, there are the times when someone just does not realize what they just said or did or how that action was perceived. And believe it or not, (pretend shock here) there are some people who are just mean!
I have been hurt by mainly saints in my lifetime (I was a UPC PK)...You wouldn't believe the junk that I endured growing up and even into my adult years. However, I have had to learn that people are people and it's how YOU handle the situation that's important. And believe me, there have been times that I have bit back at people intentionally and unintentionally because of my hurt...that just creates a vicious cycle that never seems to end 
If we lived our life for God based on what people did or did not do, well, we'd probably all be in a world of hurt!
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03-30-2009, 08:03 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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Absolutely the key...sometimes we have the tendency to read into what others are saying or doing and often times, WE are the ones who create the situation based on perceptions. And then again, there are the times when someone just does not realize what they just said or did or how that action was perceived. And believe it or not, (pretend shock here) there are some people who are just mean!
I have been hurt by mainly saints in my lifetime (I was a UPC PK)...You wouldn't believe the junk that I endured growing up and even into my adult years. However, I have had to learn that people are people and it's how YOU handle the situation that's important. And believe me, there have been times that I have bit back at people intentionally and unintentionally because of my hurt...that just creates a vicious cycle that never seems to end
If we lived our life for God based on what people did or did not do, well, we'd probably all be in a world of hurt! |
GraceAmazing, you are right. There are some people who are just mean. I read somewhere recently and then heard it again today somewhere else that most of the time when people lash out in meanness, it is actually because they are scared to death. Maybe they're scared you won't like them, so they'll just make it easy for you not to. Or maybe they're afraid for you to get close because they've had people who were close to them before who hurt them. Or........... there are all kinds of reasons for people to lash out in meanness to cover their fear.
But in the end, God is not going to ask us to give an account for anyone else's actions. Only our own. And only our own reactions to their actions.
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03-30-2009, 08:48 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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And always the same UC's who deny that any thing of the sort happens in any of the churches they know about. |
LOL! Too true!
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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The majority of preachers and saints I have had the pleasure to be around were wonderful God loving-truth loving-folks. I don't have a sad song to sing. Yes I have been hurt and disappointed by both but honestly I am certain I have hurt others of which I regret. Getting hurt is part of the process to get out of here. It is the hurts-wounds-disappointments-trials-tests that cause us to turn to HIM who is the healer and consoler. My hurts can make me BETTER or BITTER. I choose to be made better by them. Bitterness imprisons those who have it. For me to go on today in HIM I must close the door on yesterdays hurts. I give my hurts to HIM and HE bears them well.
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Why I didn't know ultracons were capable of compassion! 
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?
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Why I didn't know ultracons were capable of compassion! |
German, what made you dig up a 4 year old thread?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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