UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

"Let he whom is without sin cast the first stone? NOBODY is perfect or worthy of passing judgement on ANYONE unless we ourselves are perfect. We are born of sin, we are also imperfect, so why do so many judge."

Whatev.

So let's all go fornicate because, after all, the worst sin is judging, right?

Silliness. Absolute silliness.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Pel
, what gospel was Jesus preaching when he said



But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

And that's the big story here, in my opinion. Since 'fornication' was needed to justify the divorce.... 'fornication' was stretched to include "exhibitionism". That's very troubling, imo.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

And that's the big story here, in my opinion. Since 'fornication' was needed to justify the divorce.... 'fornication' was stretched to include "exhibitionism". That's very troubling, imo.

It's endorsed doctrine by an Executive presbyter.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by DAII

Charnock would file for divorce even without biblical grounds, then..

Daniel,

It would be grounds for divorce if...

1. She was on a pool date with a male friend other than her husband while clothed in nothing but an itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny-yellow-polka-dot-bikini.

2. She went there on the sly.

Gee, what else would her husband be left to think?

She's flippantly flaunting a bit more than her liberty, don'tcha think?

[missourimary]

Originally Posted by DAII

This part of the civil suit complaint and a letter sent by Fogarty's lawyer seems to deny the comments were even made ... this despite the audio tape :

Dan, his statements bearing false witness were recorded by the church tape ministry and handed over to the plaintiff's attorney, documented and submitted as part of the case.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The question still remains - WHY was she wearing a bikini? Why did she think it was decent or right? Why was it wrong to address her character because of that?

What do we know about the husband? Is he a good man, or does he wear Speedos in mixed company? LOL!

She wasn't even a member of the church when the pastor spoke about her character. The pastors comments were made to obviously justify his daughters relationship with a divorced man, who judging by the speed of their engagment may not have had the divorce finalized when they were beginning to grow close.

Yes the woman wore a bikini. We do not know if it was after the divorce was initialized or before. Yes the woman was at a pool with a married man. We do not know if it was alone or with the man's wife. Yes the woman and man got divorced. We know neither the cause of the divorce nor the timeline for the events that occurred.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Whatev.

So let's all go fornicate because, after all, the worst sin is judging, right?

Silliness. Absolute silliness.

It's called Biblical!

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Daniel,

It would be grounds for divorce if...

1. She was on a pool date with a male friend other than her husband while clothed in nothing but a teeny-weeny-yellow-polka-dot-bikini.

2. She went there on the sly.

Gee, what else would her husband be left to think?

She's flippantly flaunting a bit more than her liberty, don'tcha think?

Not grounds at all ... sorry you view marital vows so flippantly.

And more innuendo placed on the victim.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I did no such thing.

I said it would be if she wore a bikini whilst with a man who was not her husband.

To me, that is cheating. She's showing her wares to the wrong feller.

Do you commit fornication everytime you see someone in a bikini? whether it is on a magazine cover or walking down the street or at a relatives house for a bbque?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by missourimary

Dan, his statements bearing false witness were recorded by the church tape ministry and handed over to the plaintiff's attorney, documented and submitted as part of the case.

Bearing false witness and divorce is always trumped by mixed bathing.