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01-08-2008, 07:13 PM
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...and then it could be said that had she be in submission to her hubby and not been preaching and let him do the job it would not happen! LOL
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01-08-2008, 07:15 PM
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Bro. PM you need some serious help...........lol
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01-08-2008, 07:16 PM
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Guess in a way I understand why PM thinks this stuff is newsworthy. He feels closely connected to the UPC family through roots and current friends and family members.
If it were the RCC we would have little interest because few have direct contacts there... It goes without saying that these stories are sad and noone is fully exempt including my own Old Order Mennonite family.
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01-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Guess in a way I understand why PM thinks this stuff is newsworthy. He feels closely connected to the UPC family through roots and current friends and family members.
If it were the RCC we would have little interest because few have direct contacts there... It goes without saying that these stories are sad and noone is fully exempt including my own Old Order Mennonite family.
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Steve, I really doubt if internet porn is a major problem for Old Order Mennonites, is it? 
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01-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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I guess that is true Bro. Stephen, but it does kinda lead the way for folks to really undermine the church. And I don't mean the UPC but the body of Christ. As one poster in this thread seems to delight in. Never crossing the line by using words like IF etc.... but still it is there.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2008, 07:19 PM
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Can someone provide scripture that forbids the use of medicine or herbal remedies to control pain or illness? Some people have chronic illnesses and disabilities that must be kept in check with medication, including pain management, or they simply would be unable to function normally.
Walkbyfaith, even if you take certain medications the way they are intended, your body can become [temporarily] dependent on the medicine, and when you stop taking the medicine, you can have unpleasant (also usually temporary) side effects. That doesn't mean that there is something wrong or sinful about ridding your body of pain, and in most cases that means making the pain bearable, not getting rid of it completely.
I agree, abusing prescription drugs is not a good thing--but taking necessary meds in the way you are supposed to is not bad, whether your body becomes dependent or not. Since when is dependency somehow sinful? Are people who ride in wheelchairs wrong because they cannot walk without a wheelchair? They are dependent on the chair to move around....
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01-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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Steve, I really doubt if internet porn is a major problem for Old Order Mennonites, is it? |
I've heard that inbreeding is a problem with the Amish though......
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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01-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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I know Kirk Franklin is not Apostolic but he was addicted to porn for a long time. It is happening to a lot of Christian men because of the internet.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2008, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I've heard that inbreeding is a problem with the Amish though......
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Now that is just wrong...... dontcha know they swap wives...... 
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2008, 07:21 PM
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I need a Triple Espresso, NOW!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I've heard that inbreeding is a problem with the Amish though......
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you oughta stop it now,,, that is just asinine! you gonna be in trouble when he reads this!
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