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Old 03-28-2007, 10:46 AM
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This is what I don't get ... how can it be in debt??? ... seriously ...

This is not the US gov't that can deficit spend ....

They got the money from somewhere to fund the last few GC's

Where did it come from ??? Was it loaned? Did they dip into other org funds?

Are we saying there are outstanding bills from previous GC's?

Someone please tell me ... how they can claim to have this debt ??? Are they filing bankruptcy if the $25 fee is not issued??
Can someone help me understand this ... I know each "thing" has it's own budget ... but ....
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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We have to pay to go to General Conference...where business is conducted for the organization that we pay $300-400 and some a year to..after our ministerial fees were raised last year........not including the district dues we pay.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:36 PM
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as an AFF staffer, I need to add....

lets make sure this thread doesnt become a UPC-bashing fest.... keep your comments and observations objective....
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:34 PM
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I think they just need to raise the dues $25, and leave the show free.
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:50 PM
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Why is it a problem to pay a registration fee for a conference? Even small, local and district seminars have a fee to cover expenses.

Certainly in the secular world national convention registration is typical. For example I pay $350 per year for membership in a particular group, yet next month when I attend our four day national convention I will pay $410.00.

If the concern is about visitors, then perhaps there should be an evangelistic thrust for one particular night that is open to the unregistered public.
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:54 PM
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Why is it a problem to pay a registration fee for a conference? Even small, local and district seminars have a fee to cover expenses.

Certainly in the secular world national convention registration is typical. For example I pay $350 per year for membership in a particular group, yet next month when I attend our four day national convention I will pay $410.00.

If the concern is about visitors, then perhaps there should be an evangelistic thrust for one particular night that is open to the unregistered public.
I think it is the principle that this is preaching, and many of us do not feel a price tag should be placed on it. If there are workshops and such, it is one thing. But the preaching of the W ord should not carry a price tag for attendance.

And then there are the preachers that feel their does are already high enough, and that they should be able to do business without having to pay more.

Overall, the GC really needs to be overhauled financially wise
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:02 PM
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I think it is the principle that this is preaching, and many of us do not feel a price tag should be placed on it. If there are workshops and such, it is one thing. But the preaching of the W ord should not carry a price tag for attendance.
And then there are the preachers that feel their does are already high enough, and that they should be able to do business without having to pay more.

Overall, the GC really needs to be overhauled financially wise
That is a tough stand though. By it's very nature a church conference will be preaching and teaching from God's word. The facilities and expenses need to be paid... and if the offerings aren't doing it then a fee should be put in place to take care of it.

I don't see why non-members couldn't be exempted for that matter - and get a "guest" name tag.


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Old 03-27-2007, 09:05 PM
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That is a tough stand though. By it's very nature a church conference will be preaching and teaching from God's word. The facilities and expenses need to be paid... and if the offerings aren't doing it then a fee should be put in place to take care of it.

I don't see why non-members couldn't be exemted for that matter - and get a "guest" name tag.


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The crusade service (Sunday PM), the songfest (or whatever they call it now) and the first business session are open without registration.
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The crusade service (Sunday PM), the songfest (or whatever they call it now) and the first business session are open without registration.
My second message said $25 for the week if preregistered, and no charge to vote. This is subject to change again...
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:03 PM
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Why is it a problem to pay a registration fee for a conference? Even small, local and district seminars have a fee to cover expenses.

Certainly in the secular world national convention registration is typical. For example I pay $350 per year for membership in a particular group, yet next month when I attend our four day national convention I will pay $410.00.

If the concern is about visitors, then perhaps there should be an evangelistic thrust for one particular night that is open to the unregistered public.
Why is it a problem?

I just sent in a $96.50 check for budget fee. That's nearly $400 a year.
Then we pay our tithes to the district.

Now they are wanting more. It is a crying shame to charge preacher and their family to come into service so that they can take up an offering for 3 hours.
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