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Old 11-22-2008, 04:45 PM
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To not believe is a choice.
I can't personally choose not to believe. Can you? I can choose how to act.
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There are many in the Southern Baptist Convention who do not believe in modern day healing from God.

But when they get sick themselves, it is amazing how how fast they start to believe.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:52 PM
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I can't personally choose not to believe. Can you? I can choose how to act.
What I am trying to say is they are both choices. To believe or not to believe.
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There are many in the Southern Baptist Convention who do not believe in modern day healing from God.

But when they get sick themselves, it is amazing how how fast they start to believe.
I think that's a mis-charaterization. Most believe in healing just not in the apostolic miraculous gift of healing.
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Questioner, if you are looking for books, especially by Christian authors, in addition to TRFrance's suggestions, you might want to try Mere Christianity by CS Lewis and Warranted Christian Belief by Alvin Plantinga. There are also many Christian apologetic sites online. Here's some to get you started:

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/PageServer

http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/

http://www.4truth.net/

http://www.irr.org/

http://www.bethinking.org/other-religions/

http://www.str.org/site/PageServer

Don't see any presuppositionalists here......
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To not believe is a choice.
I'm running out to be "social"... so only have a moment... but would it be better to pretend to believe and maybe belief would eventually come (or return)? I just have a hard time trying to be something that I'm not...

by "choosing" to believe, then I am pretending to believe... does that make sense?
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Don't see any presuppositionalists here......
http://www.ligonier.org/welcome.php
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What I am trying to say is they are both choices. To believe or not to believe.
What I am saying is that I am not choosing the fact that I believe. I've always believed in God, ever since I was a little kid. And I believe moreso now after having been saved. I couldn't choose not to believe because I just do.
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I'm running out to be "social"... so only have a moment... but would it be better to pretend to believe and maybe belief would eventually come (or return)? I just have a hard time trying to be something that I'm not...

by "choosing" to believe, then I am pretending to believe... does that make sense?
I don't think pretending to believe does any good. I think it causes an aggravation of the spirit. I think studying and searching is the best thing to do. But, I don't think advertising your questioning is good. Keeping it under your hat until you are more sure seems reasonable.
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Actually Sproul is a 'classical' apologist. He wrote a book(a pretty bad one) against the Van Tillian position....

Try http://www.vantil.info/ and http://www.logos.com/vantil
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