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12-29-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
What's the difference?
A minister watches DVD movies with his family and is open about it.
A minister watches DVD movies with his family and is closed about it.
Just because minister "A" is open about it, why does that make him worse than minister "B" that does the same thing, but doesn't talk about it?
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At the risk of  and being a  , I see nothing wrong with a UPCI minister watching a DVD in the open about it or closed about it.
What I do have a PROBLEM with is when the minister signs a paper and tells a lie about having a TV in their home on which to watch the DVD's, the news or anything else.
If you have a true monitor great. If you use your computer to watch a DVD on, great. If you use your I Phone to watch TV on, great. UPCI will not come out against these item like they did TV years ago. It is a can of worms and they understand that now. They stress the need to be responsible with how you use these NEW ITEMS. But yet TV is still a no, no.
To many men of God preached to many people into hell for having a TV and it would be devastating for the org to go back and say there was a mistake made. A lot of things can send a person to hell, including allowing this issue to become bitter in ones heart.
Calling a TV a Monitor just to skirt the rules, sham on them.
It would be better for the org to remove the question from their application.
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12-29-2008, 11:51 AM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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At the risk of  and being a  , I see nothing wrong with a UPCI minister watching a DVD in the open about it or closed about it.
What I do have a PROBLEM with is when the minister signs a paper and tells a lie about having a TV in their home on which to watch the DVD's, the news or anything else.
If you have a true monitor great. If you use your computer to watch a DVD on, great. If you use your I Phone to watch TV on, great. UPCI will not come out against these item like they did TV years ago. It is a can of worms and they understand that now. They stress the need to be responsible with how you use these NEW ITEMS. But yet TV is still a no, no.
To many men of God preached to many people into hell for having a TV and it would be devastating for the org to go back and say there was a mistake made. A lot of things can send a person to hell, including allowing this issue to become bitter in ones heart.
Calling a TV a Monitor just to skirt the rules, sham on them.
It would be better for the org to remove the question from their application.
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I agree.
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12-29-2008, 04:34 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
What's the difference?
A minister watches DVD movies with his family and is open about it.
A minister watches DVD movies with his family and is closed about it.
Just because minister "A" is open about it, why does that make him worse than minister "B" that does the same thing, but doesn't talk about it?
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I'm wondering why you are so concerned about either minister and his DVD's.
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12-29-2008, 05:00 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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I'm wondering why you are so concerned about either minister and his DVD's.
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Headquarters has hired her as a SPY.
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12-29-2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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I'm wondering why you are so concerned about either minister and his DVD's.
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12-29-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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Why are you concerned about bossy women? You start your threads and I'll start mine - - 
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Well---------I can only say that there is a big difference between the two situations.
First, bossy women are everywhere. Yes, I said it, EVERYWHERE! They are on the hellivision, in the movies, in books, at work and in our homes (not mine, of course). We can run from them, but we cannot hide. Why, I even saw a bossy woman at church t'other day! I see their posts on AFF!
EGAD!!!
Second, everyone knows that preachers NEVER watch DVD's. DVD's are of the debbil. I am amazed that you would think any A-POST-I-LICK preacher would view such sinfulness!!
Apples and oranges, as Johnny Carroll would say!
Asinine, as rrford would say!
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12-29-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Well---------I can only say that there is a big difference between the two situations.
First, bossy women are everywhere. Yes, I said it, EVERYWHERE! They are on the hellivision, in the movies, in books, at work and in our homes (not mine, of course). We can run from them, but we cannot hide. Why, I even saw a bossy woman at church t'other day! I see their posts on AFF!
EGAD!!!
Second, everyone knows that preachers NEVER watch DVD's. DVD's are of the debbil. I am amazed that you would think any A-POST-I-LICK preacher would view such sinfulness!!
Apples and oranges, as Johnny Carroll would say!
Asinine, as rrford would say!
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Goofy post as rrford would say!
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12-29-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
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I think the UPC did a big booboo in preaching against things and not principles.
Things change. Principles never do.
This is why continuing to preach against TV and men wearing beards is so silly today, even though there was a purpose way back when.
This is also why preaching against women wearing pants is silly in 2008. There was a time when pants were considered men's attire, but not today! Instead of preaching principles, we preach such silliness that no longer applies in today's society.
It's just as silly as preaching against stockings on women because men wore them in the 1700's, or nightgowns on women because men wore them in the 1800's. Is there anyone alive today that remembers those days?
There aren't many people except those around 50 and older who remember what it was like in 'the olden days'. From the time I was a kid, women have worn pants. They've worn women's pants.
For the kids of today, they don't understand the preaching about women wearing men's attire because they have pants on. They will AMEN the preaching because that's what they are supposed to do, but they really don't have a clue as to what it means, nor an understanding.
Let's preach principles. If we did that, we wouldn't have immodest skirt and dress-wearing girls and women in the church. But hey, they have 'holiness' because they wear the uniform!
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Great post, H1. Good points here!
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12-30-2008, 12:04 AM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
You know what's hard, when you diagree with many things the church teaches(not standards) and you have kids.
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12-30-2008, 12:39 AM
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Re: God is All Knowing So Why Does it Matter?
We don't really have to condone or forbid the technology... just approach it the same way we approach books and magazines.
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