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Old 01-21-2009, 07:14 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

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Lowery is an old lion of the civil rights movement. He is a part of a different generation of African-Americans. Obama is not a part of that generation nor did his parents experience the injustices of the racism that existed in Lowery's generation.

People like Lowery, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al fought hard to get America and race relations to this point. Not always doing it in the right way, they did represent a vast majority of black folks. Yesterday made all of those black leaders a lot less relevant, if, that is, they want to continue the old rhetoric and attitudes.

With that being said, Lowery's prayer must be taken in context. In a way it shows the distinction between a fading generation (Lowery) and a new generation of black Americans (Obama). The attitudes are different.
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Yesterday made all of those black leaders a lot less relevant, if, that is, they want to continue the old rhetoric and attitudes.
Amen to this. Many black leaders have commented that Sharpton, Jackson and I will include Oprah keep the race issue alive. We will see what they do with it now.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:30 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

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Lowery is an old lion of the civil rights movement. He is a part of a different generation of African-Americans. Obama is not a part of that generation nor did his parents experience the injustices of the racism that existed in Lowery's generation.

People like Lowery, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al fought hard to get America and race relations to this point. Not always doing it in the right way, they did represent a vast majority of black folks. Yesterday made all of those black leaders a lot less relevant, if, that is, they want to continue the old rhetoric and attitudes.

With that being said, Lowery's prayer must be taken in context. In a way it shows the distinction between a fading generation (Lowery) and a new generation of black Americans (Obama). The attitudes are different.
Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton should be in jail for being the shakedown artists they are.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:37 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

The eccumenical malarkey that he included was nice too: seeking God in your churches, your temples, and your mosques....


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Old 01-21-2009, 08:19 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

WoW, I just googles for Rev Lowrey's prayer text and this IS a hot topic of debate today.
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We go now to walk together, children, pledging that we won't get weary in the difficult days ahead. We know you will not leave us alone, with your hands of power and your heart of love.

Help us then, now, Lord, to work for that day when nation shall not lift up sword against nation, when tanks will be beaten into tractors, when every man and every woman shall sit under his or her own vine and fig tree, and none shall be afraid; when justice will roll down like waters and righteousness as a mighty stream.

Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around -- (laughter) -- when yellow will be mellow -- (laughter) -- when the red man can get ahead, man -- (laughter) -- and when white will embrace what is right.

Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen.

AUDIENCE: Amen!

REV. LOWERY: Say amen --

AUDIENCE: Amen!

REV. LOWERY: -- and amen.

AUDIENCE: Amen! (Cheers, applause.)

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Mabe he could have chosn other words for his rhym. He was alluding to recent racial paste. Not slavey, but the black south that HE well remembers.

I think we have all come a mighty long way from those days, but not all of us.
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Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around -- (laughter) -- when yellow will be mellow -- (laughter) -- when the red man can get ahead, man -- (laughter) -- and when white will embrace what is right.
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I think he prefaced the qeustionable wording with the bolded above. He prayed that in memory of the past injustices.
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I immediately thought it was racist. Blacks can be just as racist as whites.
Why does everybody celebrate his Kenyan goatherder father and conveniently forget that his mother who raised him was a white woman from Kansas?
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

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I immediately thought it was racist. Blacks can be just as racist as whites.
Why does everybody celebrate his Kenyan goatherder father and conveniently forget that his mother who raised him was a white woman from Kansas?
The racism sure does go both ways. I listen to a black gospel radio station and on the way in to work today they were talking about Obama got off beat clapping at one of the balls.

The DJ said, he must have got that from his mom's side.
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The racism sure does go both ways. I listen to a black gospel radio station and on the way in to work today they were talking about Obama got off beat clapping at one of the balls.

The DJ said, he must have got that from his mom's side.
Hilarious!!! That was racist!!!!
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Hilarious!!! That was racist!!!!
Nope. Not if he is black. He has slavery in his history so he can say that kind of stuff and it is ok. That is essentially the message we heard on this thread. What this guy said is ok, because look at what whites have done to blacks. All whites bad.
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

Well, I'm just not sure how I felt about that prayer. It was un-PC, for sure, but it seemed more heartfelt overall than Rick Warren. I wasn't really offended by his remarks, but that's because I tend to give older people more of a pass, since they're from a different era and just don't censor themselves as much as we do these days.

I don't think we should be quite so sensitive about it, and I think it's disingenuous to be offended just because others would be offended if the situation were reversed. I'm not going to choose to be offended simply because I have the right to be.

We really need a sense of humor, plain and simple.
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