Pentecostalism, Version 20.09 - Page 5

berkeley · #41 05-14-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by edjen01

Good post!!

IMHO....most of the division comes when one sides decides that the other side is not saved....and then it all just sort of spirals out of control.

It is not fair and/or balanced to blame all/most of the division on the U-Cons.

KWSS1976 · #42 05-14-2009, 01:48 PM

I don't think god will pass ya by he just wants ya to stop running the isles and sit down to listen to his word...LOL

rgcraig · #43 05-14-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

I don't think god will pass ya by he just wants ya to stop running the isles and sit down to listen to his word...LOL

lol.....

nahkoe · #44 05-14-2009, 01:57 PM

The Lemon, this is a very good post. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

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Originally Posted by The Lemon

I have noticed, as has already been mentioned, that the up and coming generation does not subscribe to "Do it because I said so", they want scripture, they want to be shown. I know there are some that just want to be disobeidient and rebellious, but there are those who sincerely want to know the "Why". Everything from Salvation, Tithing, and Holiness is being questioned and the way I see it there are two choices:

1. Show them in the Word, teaching sound doctrine
2. Just rant and get frustrated because you don't like being questioned

This is me. I've offended quite a few people (hey, don't lie..I know I have..even here). I want to see it. Show me. If you can't show me, don't get upset when I don't believe you. I don't have time or energy to get this wrong. And given where I've been, where God has brought me from, I don't have room in my life to get it all wrong again.

berkeley · #45 05-14-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe

The Lemon, this is a very good post. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

This is me. I've offended quite a few people (hey, don't lie..I know I have..even here). I want to see it. Show me. If you can't show me, don't get upset when I don't believe you. I don't have time or energy to get this wrong. And given where I've been, where God has brought me from, I don't have room in my life to get it all wrong again.

glooooooray!

gloryseeker · #46 05-14-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by edjen01

that still seems a little "evangelistical" to me....but i haven't seen any numbers concerning tongue-talkers. it is difficult for me to believe that there are 300 million U.S. citizens....and 600 million tongue-talkers.

but 600 million is still easier to believe than 1/6th of the worlds population.

Probably part of your problem is comparing it to the USA population. Take China for instance. There is a BIG (even though small compared to 'their' overall population) group of Spirit-filled believers. The same in India.

When you hit these countries with massive populations the numbers grow rather quickly

Sam · #47 05-14-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edjen01

that still seems a little "evangelistical" to me....but i haven't seen any numbers concerning tongue-talkers. it is difficult for me to believe that there are 300 million U.S. citizens....and 600 million tongue-talkers.

but 600 million is still easier to believe than 1/6th of the worlds population.

I have read estimates of those who consider themselves to be Charismatic/Pentecostal and the number is given as 500-600 million. Not all of these claim to have spoken in tongues. The figure is for those who believe in charismatic gifting for today and/or are affiliated with Charismatic/Pentecostal groups, organizations, fellowships, or denominations. I can't even remember where I've read that.

edjen01 · #48 05-14-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

It is not fair and/or balanced to blame all/most of the division on the U-Cons.

Mr.B...I agree...thats why I didn't do it.

edjen01 · #49 05-14-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

First of all, I find it ironic that you go around the board and reply to every post I make, calling me by my first name, and speaking to me as if we know each other.

Second of all, yes, it is MY definition. I am entitled to it, as I have been a Pentecostal for 33 years, only to find out recently that I am now "Apostolic."

Also, use your fingers and google 'glossolalia statistics'.

The numbers aren't mine. They've been published extensively elsewhere.

Mr Anglin.

I recently found your post to be very interesting...many of them happen to be on the exact same topic...and so I responded to them. I will try and refrain in the future.

I meant no disrespect by calling you "Ed"...i guess it would have been better to refer to you as "EA" or "Mr Anglin". I was not trying to insinuate that I knew you...and so will not call you that in the future.

I am not questioning your right to create and have your own definition of "Apostolic" or "Pentecostal". I was simply trying to find out if this definition was yours...or came from some other book/person/organization.

regarding your years in Pentecost...I say "God bless and God speed"...I pray you continue for another 33 years.

as for Google and glossolalia statistics...I've found that I have to be very careful when pulling numbers from the internet...just my experience.

edjen01 · #50 05-14-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker

Probably part of your problem is comparing it to the USA population. Take China for instance. There is a BIG (even though small compared to 'their' overall population) group of Spirit-filled believers. The same in India.

When you hit these countries with massive populations the numbers grow rather quickly

i only used the U.S. population to help show how big 1 billion really is.

Think of it this way....if China & Indias population were 15% tongue-talkers(and I believe that is high) and the entire population of the U.S. were tongue-takers....you still would not have 1 billion tongue-talkers.