There is a message from the Pentecostals of West Monroe's Week of Annointing in which Wayne Huntley teaches this as a method for church growth. He even said that he wants some people to not convert to standards real fast so that he can have some "decoys" for the sinners. In the same sermon he also mentions that we don't have true converts until they think "we are right and everybody else is wrong". I was blown away by these comments and they helped me really start distancing myself from UPC doctrine.
Why do we have to lie to people if it is the truth?
That is so bad-- it is beyond bad, it's horrible!
I don't know what's worst, your implications or that your implications may be true!
This really makes me sad. Pease tell us that there is some embellishment here, something, anything to make it not read like it reads to me right now.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Your wife didn't happen to sing in the choir did she? Maybe that was your church he was talking about in that song.
"Then there's those fine ladies in the choir, Lord, singin' like they really love it.
"Last night, they were dancin' on the front row of my show: drinkin' beer, screamin: 'Sing Shove It.'
My wife has not been part of a choir since she was in a youth choir as a teenager back in the nineteen fifties. And my wife is not a beer drinker. Actually she does not drink any alcoholic beverages. I don't remember if we danced at his show or not. I do like the song, "Take This Job and Shove It" but I don't think she was hollering "Sing Shove It" from the front row. Actually we had to sit farther back. The place was pretty crowded.
At the time we went to hear Johnny we were not active in any church. We had been going to an ALJC church and long hair on a man or facial hair on a man would not have been acceptable there. That's one of the reasons we left. We later went to a Vineyard Church for about 13 years. Johnny Paycheck could have walked in there and and looked OK. He would look OK at the Hamilton Dream Center where we have been going since spring of 2006.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
My wife has not been part of a choir since she was in a youth choir as a teenager back in the nineteen fifties. And my wife is not a beer drinker. Actually she does not drink any alcoholic beverages. I don't remember if we danced at his show or not. I do like the song, "Take This Job and Shove It" but I don't think she was hollering "Sing Shove It" from the front row. Actually we had to sit farther back. The place was pretty crowded.
At the time we went to hear Johnny we were not active in any church. We had been going to an ALJC church and long hair on a man or facial hair on a man would not have been acceptable there. That's one of the reasons we left. We later went to a Vineyard Church for about 13 years. Johnny Paycheck could have walked in there and and looked OK. He would look OK at the Hamilton Dream Center where we have been going since spring of 2006.
So maybe it was some of the other ladies from the church choir then. You know you set yourself up for that, right?
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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow." ~Aesop
They have a lot of S.C. Johnson stuff on their webpage. If you really want a good laugh read their history.
They begin their history at Jerusalem and then jump to 1919. Then look at the way they transfer power. Scary.
Wow. Isn't that a conveniently written "Epistle."
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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