Holy Ghost Hokey Pokey - Page 5

Pressing-On · #41 03-02-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't see this type of manipulation on a regular basis, either. Usually people worship on their own, without someone whipping them into a frenzy. I have seen it, though.

Reminds me of this video posted by a relative of mine awhile back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQTjYWKwGl8

This video (and the one you posted) show people sort of copying the emotional aspects of a Pentecostal experience without God leading the process. It's just weird.

I agree, Abigail. I don't see this type of manipulation on a regular basis. And, YES, people, generally, worship on their own. How they do that is going to reflect their teaching and their leadership.

MissBrattified · #42 03-02-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Sorry wrong link, I meant to post my all time favorite Pentecostalism song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vd_C5KX_lk

Not my favorite, but I grew up with people who loved to sing "I'm a tongue-talking-holy-rollin-born-again-heaven-bound-believer-in-the-liberating-power-of-Jesus'-name...." Kind of the same thing, modernized. (A little bit, anyway.)

Those kinds of songs mean something to some people, I have no problem with that. My Dad sang in "honky tonks" before he was saved and that rockabilly style was still what he loved after he was saved.

The style of music isn't really the issue--and neither are the lyrics--at least, not altogether. I'm not really appreciative of using the "hokey pokey" in a church service, though.

Praxeas · #43 03-02-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Not always, I don't think. When you feel the Spirit of God, you are going to get excited. There is just no way around that. Doing the Hokey Pokey is a big strange.

As a movement we've over emphasized excitement. That is how we got HMH and not good sound doctrine.

Pressing-On · #44 03-02-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Sorry wrong link, I meant to post my all time favorite Pentecostalism song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vd_C5KX_lk

A lot different than the Hokey Pokey, but it's not my favorite song. lol

MissBrattified · #45 03-02-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

As a movement we've over emphasized excitement. That is how we got HMH and not good sound doctrine.

I agree. It doesn't mean that excitement is bad or that emotional responses are bad--it's just that people sometimes seek an experience more than they seek God. What's sad about that, is that seeking God will almost always bring an experience of some sort, so those who seek the trappings are bound to end up unfulfilled. Just as unfulfilled, in fact, as a human being seeking after any other empty thing.

Because of it, some people avoid the emotionalism altogether, and condemn (or at least disapprove of) anyone who has an outward response to God's presence--which is also bad, because God likes responsiveness. Others may fear to express their own emotions because they don't want to be in that league.

berkeley · #46 03-02-2010, 06:14 PM

I'm not ashamed of being Pentecostal. I'm ashamed of that song...

berkeley · #47 03-02-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree. It doesn't mean that excitement is bad or that emotional responses are bad--it's just that people sometimes seek an experience more than they seek God. What's sad about that, is that seeking God will almost always bring an experience of some sort, so those who seek the trappings are bound to end up unfulfilled. Just as unfulfilled, in fact, as a human being seeking after any other empty thing.

Because of it, some people avoid the emotionalism altogether, and condemn (or at least disapprove of) anyone who has an outward response to God's presence--which is also bad, because God likes responsiveness. Others may fear to express their own emotions because they don't want to be in that league.

great post. I usually agree with ya, btw... just too lazy to post that I agree.

MissBrattified · #48 03-02-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan

great post. I usually agree with ya, btw... Just too lazy to post that i agree.

ty!

Pressing-On · #49 03-02-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

As a movement we've over emphasized excitement. That is how we got HMH and not good sound doctrine.

We aren't the only ones that have over-emphasized excitement. I've never seen anything as stupid as Benny Hinn or anyone with pink hair and spider eyelashes dabbing their eyes with a hanky so the mascara won't run. You know who I am talking about. I've never seen anything as ridiculous as all of that.

On Daniel's post - Post-Divorce: She Commands Angels - this is what stood out to me in the woman's post:

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After reading this and seeking the Lord on the matter, I loved the idea that my hair gave me power with angels. It sounds almost like a mythical fantasy. Some people think that the Bible does too, but I am a Bible believer.

That is where she went wrong. People look at the Bible as a Disney movie for the action.

I see the Spirit of God, in the gifts, as blessing those who call upon His name, those with a hungry heart, those that are in need of a real and personal God paying attention to them and knowing their life matters. That is what the Gifts of the Spirit and the move of God mean to me.

To show and prove that God is in the affairs of all men. It is not a mystical thing in worship, praise, prayer or our lives. I don't seek the fanciful. I just seek Him!

Okay, gotta to go and vote!

Great discussion!

Pressing-On · #50 03-02-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

ty!

Stop acting like Timmy!