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Originally Posted by seekerman
Please try to stick with the point. The point was that the Israelites could not have been Black because the Black African culture was little more than primitive savages at the time of the Old Testament. The Israelites on the other hand were advanced culturally, spiritually and economically as were many other cultures of the time. But not the equatorial African Black culture.
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The "point" is a moving target with you, Bro. The point might have have been that the ancient Israelites were not "black Africans" because genetic studies have shown them to be related to other peoples.
The point also might have been that there is actually little cultural similarity (with one important exception) between the various cultures of Equatorial Africa and the ancient Israelites.
For you, the point might also have been graciously made as: "Oh! Gee, well I obviously don't know much 'bout history except what I read on David Duke's web site..."
Instead, the "point" has become your unnecessary disparagement of an entire continent of human beings.
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Originally Posted by seekerman
Again, there is NOTHING of significance in contribution to civilization that originated in equatorial Africa. Nothing. ONLY after those equatorial African cultures were exposed to more advanced cultures did they advance and offer a semblance of contribution to society.
Study your history.
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The same can be said of every single civilization that has ever existed. None of them (none of "us") amounted to much when left on our own. It was only through trade, interaction, intermarriage and even warfare with other cultures that "modern" civilizations arose.
Being cut off geographically from other cultures left the "Equatorial Africans" (and the "Indians of North & South America and the Caribbean, the inhabitants of the Andaman Islands and Nicobar, the Australian Aborigines, the Maori of New Zealand, the peoples of Polynesia, the pre-Malay inhabitants of the Philippines, Arctic Eskimos, the Ainu of Sakhalin and Kamchatka... and on, and on...) "out of the loop" when it came to technical developments.
The medieval Europeans knew of Algebra because the ancients Greeks had written about it - but they just couldn't figure out how it was done. Were they "backward" and lacking in anything to "contribute" to society at large just because they could NOT do the things that you and I learned when we were in Junior High? No. They had just arrogantly hung on to a relic of the past - Latin numerals - that inhibited their own development.
During the Crusades the Europeans learned of
"Arabic" numerals (which the Arabs had learned from the Indians of South Asia) and soon, an Italian fellow named Fibonacci taught all of Europe important concepts such as "zero" and the value of a "place holder" in fractions and viola! Algebra! Hey! There ya go!
Equatorial Africans had no reason to march across a continent and to lay siege to an empire. Because of this, they lost out on a lot of other fun things as well.
Meanwhile, Europeans reaped the benefits of "discovering" the East. We got silk, gun powder, the number zero, chicken pox, cow pox (which confers immunity to small pox) and the plague (which has no real benefit that I can discern). "We" also learned the "Damascus" method of making steel which was the finest in the world until the modern blast furnace was developed.
Our masons studied Eastern architecture and came back to Europe and built some of the most beautiful buildings in the world based upon what they had learned.
It was this thirst for the knowledge of "the East" that propelled Vasco de Gama around Africa and ultimately, Columbus toward the "New World."
Civilizations "advance" when they are in contact and even at war with one another. This is a truism of history. When "eddies" of human culture develop and remain isolated, they do tend to "stagnate."
The truth is, we human beings generally do just enough to get by. It's when we are faced with extinction or some other peril that we "hit the books" and begin to make strides again. That moral applies to everyone on the planet, and with an equal share of the "blame;" if it is blame. All of the geographically isolated cultures that I mentioned paid a price for being in one of these "cultural eddies." However, every culture on the planet has experienced something similar at some point.