JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010 - Page 5

sandie · #1 12-08-2010, 10:07 AM

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This is the picture and caption posted on the UPCI website in 2007.
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Many prayers were answered.

If there's such power in this act, why weren't ALL prayers answered is something I would want to know.

Cindy · #2 12-08-2010, 10:11 AM

Doesn't this idea negate the fact that Jesus was beaten and scourged? And by His stripes we are healed? So if women let down their hair they summon angels?

DAII · #3 12-08-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Doesn't this idea negate the fact that Jesus was beaten and scourged? And by His stripes we are healed? So if women let down their hair they summon angels?

The LS fan club would love to say this is just an "attack" and figment of everyone's imagination ...

Socialite · #4 12-08-2010, 11:27 AM

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Doesn't this idea negate the fact that Jesus was beaten and scourged? And by His stripes we are healed? So if women let down their hair they summon angels?

Or the fact that the prerogative to intercede and heal us is God's own and is in his power exclusively?

Sister Alvear · #5 12-08-2010, 10:23 AM

go read Is. 53...the answer for healing is found in this chapter...then James told us to call for the elders of the church...anoint with oil and lay on hands...NOT HAIR...

Socialite · #6 12-08-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

go read Is. 53...the answer for healing is found in this chapter...then James told us to call for the elders of the church...anoint with oil and lay on hands...NOT HAIR...

Isa 53 may implicitly include physical, bodily healing (because the fall was catastrophic even down to the smallest molecular level), but what's in view in the Messianic prophecy is our position restored with God, and a solution for us to live outside of death.

I may be a minority, but I do not understand healing to be part of the atonement. I understand healing to be God's own prerogative. As much as all the church is able to function in the "gift of healing," which was only possible because of Jesus, then that by implication is a reality because of the atonement, but aside from that there is no spiritual significance IMO.

MissBrattified · #7 12-08-2010, 11:45 AM

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The laying on of hair

Someone wrote me about this new “doctrine.” Here are his words: “Brother Ensey, I am having a hard time understanding a new doctrine. I understand the teaching of laying on of hands, however, I do not understand the teaching of laying of female hair upon the sick. It seems strange and out of order.”

This is a new practice in some circles, not a new doctrine. Just because it is not mentioned in the Bible doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t or shouldn’t be done at all as an act of faith. However, to attach it to a passage like I Corinthians 11:10 and extrapolate such a theory from that verse would be wresting the Scriptures. Someone might say, “Well, I know a lady who laid her long hair on a sick person and they got better, so that must mean that Paul was trying to tell us that there is power in long hair to heal the sick.” That would be extreme eisegesis.

Surely everyone is aware that anecdotal testimony can be obtained to corroborate ANYTHING! Books could be filled with subjective testimonies that seem to confirm everything from capture by space aliens to having been to the fiery hell and back. When are we going to learn that we judge subjective experiences by the Word of truth, not the Word by someone’s experience and anecdotal testimony? I heard of a lady who was healed when she put her hands in a tub of water that had been labeled by an evangelist as “the pool of Bethesda.” Her simple faith was rewarded.

But don’t start bringing tubs of water into the church. It is unwise to build doctrines or theories on one-time miracles or experiences

http://jrenseyblog.wordpress.com/2010/12/

Personally, I think this is a reasonable response. Sometimes it isn't necessary to actually rip a person to shreds to make the point. This is direct and plain, and makes a little fun of the teaching without delving into personal mockery of the teacher.

I also agree with him that people can do odd things in faith, and God will respond. Where people err is taking anomalies and trying to turn them into general practice or doctrine. To say that one successful event of laying on of hair supports the rest of us taking up the practice is to say that we should all go around trying to cast shadows on people in the hospitals.

brianmidwest · #8 12-11-2010, 06:27 PM

"..."or leaving it be; because minsters will "catch on" to this false teaching and choose not to bring this evangelist back, thus snuffing out this teaching."

Hang on here. IF a minister had been brought up at a round table that was teaching it was ok for a woman to cut her hair, I doubt that the response would have been, that he will "catch on".

RandyWayne · #9 12-11-2010, 10:43 PM

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"..."or leaving it be; because minsters will "catch on" to this false teaching and choose not to bring this evangelist back, thus snuffing out this teaching."

Hang on here. IF a minister had been brought up at a round table that was teaching it was ok for a woman to cut her hair, I doubt that the response would have been, that he will "catch on".

Well, yes. That is exactly right. As it is brought up again and again and again, because the magic hair doctrine helps to propagate the uncut one, it is given a free pass.