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Old 01-22-2011, 11:37 PM
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Re: No More Sacrifice For Sin

Well. Tomorrow is the lesson so I had better be through studying by now. Thanks to all of you who have shared your thoughts on this verse. It has been an interesting study and your input has certainly help give me thoughts on directions to head in. I always enjoy others thoughts on things that I study because, without fail, there are thoughts and issues brought up that I would not have thought of on my own and my understanding is enhanced by the experience.

So... this is a basic overview of where the lesson is going tomorrow.

Point #1. Pay attention to the title of the book. Hebrews. Romans was written to the Romans. Ephesians was written to the Ephesians. And Hebrews was written to the Hebrews. This already gives us a point of understanding to build from in understanding God's Word. The audience can make a lot of difference.

Point #2. The context leading up to the verse. While the context of this conversation goes back a number of chapters and all of it is relevant and should be read to gather a complete understanding of the scriptures we will dwell mainly within the 10th Chapter.

Looking through the chapter we can put together the topic of conversation and pick up where the author has been heading when we get down to verse 26.

(Sorry... I don't have time to put the blow by blow discussion of all of these verses in here tonight. But, suffice it to say, the subject is that of the law and the fact that it was a shadow of things to come and cannot remove sin or else they wouldn't have to keep doing it again and again. It goes on to talk about the sacrifice that DOES take away sin forever and was prophesied about in Jeremiah. Then we get down to Verse 26)

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Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, [and] not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Hebrews 10:3 But in those [sacrifices there is] a remembrance again [made] of sins every year.
Hebrews 10:4 For [it is] not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Hebrews 10:6 In burnt offerings and [sacrifices] for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Hebrews 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and [offering] for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure [therein]; which are offered by the law;
Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all].
Hebrews 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Hebrews 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Hebrews 10:15 [Whereof] the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
Hebrews 10:16 This [is] the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Hebrews 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these [is, there is] no more offering for sin.
Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Hebrews 10:21 And [having] an high priest over the house of God;
Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of [our] faith without wavering; (for he [is] faithful that promised
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
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Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
We actually find the definition of the "willful sin" being spoken of in verse 29. Verse 29 says...

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Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
All sin is willful to some extent. To view this as speaking of any time that we do something wrong willfully pretty nearly negates the entire sacrifice of Christ. In verse 29 we see that it is talking about someone who has trodden under foot the Son of God and has counted the blood of the covenant an unholy thing.

Considering this is written to the Hebrews.
Considering the lengthy oratory on the law and how it could not forgive sin.
Considering the talk on the prophesy of this new covenant and how it takes our sins away and removes them from our conscience.
Considering the defining of a willful sin in verse 29.

This seems to be clearly speaking of those who had come to the knowledge of the Messiah, the Christ, the one sacrifice for sin and then turned from that great work and returned to the ways of the law, thereby, calling the work of Christ and the cross an unholy thing.

You did once have sacrifices made for you. You did once walk in the way God had given you. But now you have walked in a more perfect way. Now you have lived the fulfillment of that type and shadow and seen it's fullness.

There is no sacrifice to go back to. There is no more sacrifice for you because the old is fulfilled in the new and you have rejected and trodden under foot the very work of you God, Christ and King.

There is no redeemer left. You have rejected him at every angle.

So... I am not the wise man. I am a simple sunday school teacher who is doing his best to answer his students questions and, in the process, teach them how to study the word for themselves. So please do continue the conversation as I remain ready to continue learning and perfecting my understanding of our great God and His Holy Word.

Thanks again for all of your input.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:04 AM
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Re: No More Sacrifice For Sin

I would only add two things concerning the definition of sin:

Sin is 'anything' that is not done in faith (Romans 14:23), and sin is the transgression of the Law (God's instructions in righteousness, 1 John 3:4). And no, one cannot transgress the Law and do so in faith! Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32

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I would only add two things concerning the definition of sin:

Sin is 'anything' that is not done in faith (Romans 14:23), and sin is the transgression of the Law (God's instructions in righteousness, 1 John 3:4). And no, one cannot transgress the Law and do so in faith! Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32

Enjoy your class!
Thank you brother. I am glad I checked the thread before heading out to church this morning. Your thoughts will add to what we all learn this morning.
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I would only add two things concerning the definition of sin:

Sin is 'anything' that is not done in faith (Romans 14:23), and sin is the transgression of the Law (God's instructions in righteousness, 1 John 3:4). And no, one cannot transgress the Law and do so in faith! Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32

Enjoy your class!
Thanks again for this post. I ended the lesson stating that, while we have seen that the verse in question is speaking of what is tantamount to blaspheming the Holy Ghost, willful sin is always a serious issue. When we do something wrong that we know is wrong in the sight of God it reveals a lot about our relationship with God, our priorities etc.

I related a story of a couple that I know. They had been married for a number of years and the wife found out that her husband had been cheating with him for 14 years with the same woman. The wife was devastated but she said that she was willing to work through this and keep their family together.

The problem was... that he cheating husband... after having forgiveness and reconciliation offered by his wife... stated that he wasn't sure which of the women he wanted to be with.

That is betrayal to an extreme degree. We talked about how that situation is similar to us when we are faced with an option to do right or do wrong. It puts us in the position of the one who can't decide who they love. In the face of such forgiveness and reconciliation offered to us by God... how can we weigh in the balances and ponder which is the right choice?

I enjoyed the lesson so much and the kids did too. They kept telling how much they enjoyed it and the great part is that I learned so much myself.

I love teaching mid to late teens. They have such inquisitive minds and they force us all to grow.
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Re: No More Sacrifice For Sin

To be a good teacher one must first of all be their own best student. To be the best possible teacher you can be, you must first be the best possible student you can be, and allow your students to teach you.

My highest reward is when a student of mine says, "Listen to me ......." and proceeds to instruct me. That is when I know for a certainty, that I have done my job well.
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To be a good teacher one must first of all be their own best student. To be the best possible teacher you can be, you must first be the best possible student you can be, and allow your students to teach you.

My highest reward is when a student of mine says, "Listen to me ......." and proceeds to instruct me. That is when I know for a certainty, that I have done my job well.
Yes sir. It is a great reward indeed. These kids are so fascinated by the word and they spend hours on the phone reading and studying the word together. They make it so easy.
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